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Thread: When is it to much timing?

  1. #1
    Potential Tuner
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    Jun 2004
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    When is it to much timing?

    My mods are listed below in my sig, also note my heads are milled .030.
    My friend and I have been tweaking my car for the last week now ever since I had received my HP Tuner.
    I don't know if my car just really likes timing or what but I've gotten up to 32* timing at WOT with IAT upwards of 95* (in Las Vegas), with absolutely zero knock.
    So we've just been able to keep adding timing here and there.
    Also we got my A/F right at 12.8:1:1, on wideband on the freeway under load.

    Basically what I'm asking is when is too much timing no longer beneficial?
    At what point are most H/C LS1's not seeing power past XX* of timing.
    1999 Electron Blue WS6 M6&&-TTS Headers !cats&&-LS6 Intake !EGR&&-Ported Throttle Body&&-ASP Underdrive Pulley&&-230/234 590/597 114 LSA Cam&&-MMS Stage 2 Heads (2.02 1.57 REV Valves)

  2. #2
    Tuner
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    Streamwood, IL.
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    Re: When is it to much timing?

    Id like to know this too.

    dave

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    Tuner in Training
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    Katy, Tx
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    Re: When is it to much timing?

    Chase..that's a damn good question. I'm looking for that answer too. Glad you got HP and you like it

    I know my car feels SOOOOOOOOO much better now that Jeremy has been tuning it and I'm learning what he's doing.

    1998 Trans Am. Looks stock......but far from it

  4. #4
    Senior Tuner
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    Central Florida
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    Re: When is it to much timing?

    A lot of us flatlanders can't get past 30 without ping.
    Higher elevations with lower peak MAP can run more.
    You should hit peak power / TQ before ping starts, I
    don't know how much before, always read that MBT
    is "just prior to onset of detonation". So the easy way
    is keep on running it up until you start to see KR (or
    some measured performance indicates a zero further
    improvement).