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    What all is needed to repin 98 Vette auto harness to 99-up?

    Anyone done this before?
    Factory Stock 97 SS M6 13.51 @ 104.3 mph
    Stock Longblock LS1 w/ 233/238 P.S.I. Cam
    10.81 @ 126.9 Full interior, six speed on 275 radials, a decade ago

    '99 TA trunk mounted 76mm 6 Liter
    9.0s in '09 @ 153 MPH

    Turbo 5.3 Volvo 740 Wagon
    32psi and still winding out 5th on the highway somewhere

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    Yes just finished not that hard, but getting the tune switched over it giving me problems.

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    connector c1 red 98 vette pinout.

    Pin
    Wire Color
    Circuit No.
    Function

    1–3


    Not Used

    4
    BRN/WHT
    633
    Camshaft Position Sensor Signal

    5–6


    Not Used

    7
    YEL
    400
    VSS Signal High

    8


    Not Used

    9
    PNK/BLK
    1746
    Injector #3 Control

    10–11


    Not Used

    12
    LT BLU/BLK
    844
    Injector #4 Control

    13
    PPL/WHT
    2122
    Injector #2 Control

    14
    DK GRN
    59
    A/C Status

    15
    BLK/WHT
    845
    Injector #5 Control

    16–17


    Not Used

    18
    YEL/BLK
    846
    Injector #6 Control

    19–20


    Not Used

    21
    PPL
    719
    IAT Sensor Ground

    22
    DK BLU
    1225
    Transmission Range Signal B

    23
    LT GRN/BLK
    1745
    Injector #2 Control

    24
    BLK/WHT
    1704
    Sensor Ground Jumper

    25
    PNK
    1224
    Transmission Range Signal A

    26
    BLK/WHT
    771
    PRND A

    27
    RED/BLK
    877
    Injector #7 Control

    28–29


    Not Used

    30
    DK BLU/WHT
    449
    Real Time Damping (W/F45)

    31
    DK BLU/WHT
    878
    Injector #8 Control

    32
    WHT
    776
    PRND P

    33
    BLK
    1744
    Injector #1 Control

    34
    GRY or WHT
    587 or 687
    2nd and 3rd gear Block out Solenoid (M/T) or 3–2 Shift Solenoid (A/T)

    35
    LT GRN
    1222
    Shift Solenoid A

    36


    Not Used

    37
    BRN/WHT
    419
    MIL Control

    38


    Not Used

    39
    DK GRN/WHT
    459
    A/C Clutch Relay Control

    40
    WHT or YEL/BLK
    375 or 1223
    1 to 4 Upshift Lamp Control (M/T) or Shift Solenoid B (A/T)

    41
    PNK/WHT
    1101
    PCM Chassis Pitch Output Circuit

    42
    LT GRN
    1652
    Reverse Inhibit Solenoid Control

    43
    DK/GRN
    335
    Cooling Fan Relay #1 Control

    44
    DK BLU/WHT
    1869
    Crankshaft Position Sensor Signal

    45
    DK GRN/WHT
    428
    EVAP Canister Purge Valve Control

    46
    ORN/BLK
    463
    Desired Torque

    47
    DK GRN/WHT
    762
    A/C Request Signal (C60)

    48
    YEL
    492
    MAF Signal

    49
    PPL
    2121
    Ignition #1 Control

    50–51


    Not Used

    52
    RED/WHT
    2128
    Ignition #8 Control

    53
    RED
    2127
    Ignition #7 Control

    54
    DK GRN/WHT
    2126
    Ignition #6 Control

    55
    DK GRN/WHT
    817
    VSS Output Signal

    56
    DK GRN
    2125
    Ignition #5 Control

    57
    LT BLU/WHT
    2124
    Ignition #4 Control

    58
    LT BLU
    2123
    Ignition #3 Control

    59
    BRN/WHT
    2130
    Ignition Control Reference Low Bank 2

    60
    BRN
    2129
    Ignition Control Reference Low Bank 1

    61
    RED
    1226
    Transmission Range Signal C

    62


    Not Used

    63
    BLK
    407
    A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Ground

    64
    BLK
    452
    Engine Oil Pressure Sensor Ground

    65
    GRY
    773
    PRND C

    66
    YEL
    772
    PRND B

    67


    Not Used

    68
    GRY
    48
    Clutch Switch Signal

    69
    BRN
    1982
    EVAP Purge Vacuum Switch Signal

    70


    Not Used

    71
    PPL
    401
    VSS Signal Low

    72
    BLK/WHT
    451C
    PCM Ground

    73
    GRY
    847
    Extended Travel Brake Switch Signal

    74


    Not Used

    75
    GRY
    720
    Left and Right Fuel Tank Level Sensor Ground

    76
    BLK/WHT
    451H
    PCM Ground

    77
    PPL
    420
    Cruise/TCC Brake Switch Signal

    78–80


    Not Used

    connector c2 blue 98 vette pinout

    Pin
    Wire Color
    Circuit No.
    Function

    1
    TAN
    1671
    HO2S Signal Low Bank 2 Sensor 2

    2
    TAN/WHT
    1669
    HO2S Signal Low Bank 1 Sensor 2

    3


    Not Used

    4
    RED
    631
    Camshaft Position Sensor B+ Supply

    5
    TAN
    1667
    HO2S Signal Low Bank 2 Sensor 1

    6
    TAN/WHT
    1653
    HO2S Signal Low Bank 1 Sensor 1

    7
    RED/BLK
    380
    A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Signal

    8
    TAN
    472
    IAT Sensor Signal

    9


    Not Used

    10
    DK BLU
    1936
    Fuel Level Sensor (Left Tank) Signal

    11
    GRY
    23
    Generator F Terminal

    12
    LT BLU
    1937
    Fuel Level Sensor (Right Tank) Signal

    13
    YEL/BLK
    1227
    Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Signal

    14
    ORN/BLK
    1057
    Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Ground

    15–18


    Not Used

    19
    PNK
    239
    PCM Ignition 1 Feed

    20
    ORN
    340B
    PCM Battery Feed

    21
    BLK/WHT
    451F
    PCM Ground

    22
    YEL/BLK
    1868
    Crankshaft Position Sensor Ground

    23


    Not Used

    24
    BLK/WHT
    1704
    Sensor Ground Jumper

    25
    BRN
    718
    ECT Sensor Ground

    26
    ORN/BLK
    469
    MAP Sensor Ground

    27


    Not Used

    28
    DK BLU
    473
    Engine Cooling Fan Relay #2 and #3 Control

    29


    Not Used

    30
    BRN
    436
    AIR Pump Relay Control

    31
    PPL
    421
    AIR Solenoid Relay Control

    32
    TAN/BLK
    422
    TCC Enable Solenoid

    33
    BRN
    418
    TCC Control (PWM) Solenoid Control

    34


    Not Used

    35
    WHT
    121
    Engine Speed (Tach) Output Signal

    36
    LT BLU/WHT
    1229
    Transmission Fluid Pressure Control Solenoid Control Low

    37
    DK GRN/WHT
    465
    Fuel Pump Relay Control

    38


    Not Used

    39
    RED/BLK
    1228
    Transmission Fluid Pressure Control Solenoid Control High

    40
    TAN/BLK
    464
    Torque Delivered

    41
    PPL
    1670
    HO2S Signal High Bank 2 Sensor 2

    42
    PPL/WHT
    1668
    HO2S Signal High Bank 1 Sensor 2

    43


    Not Used

    44
    GRY
    598
    Fuel Level Sensors 5.0 Volt Feed

    45
    GRY
    596
    Engine Oil Pressure Sensor 5.0 Volt Reference

    46
    PPL
    1666
    HO2S Signal High Bank 2 Sensor 1

    47
    PPL/WHT
    1665
    HO2S Signal High Bank 1 Sensor 1

    48
    LT GRN
    432
    MAP Sensor Signal

    49
    YEL
    410
    ECT Sensor Signal

    50–52


    Not Used

    53
    TAN/WHT
    331
    Engine Oil Pressure Sensor Signal

    54–57


    Not Used

    58
    DK GRN
    1049
    Serial Data Class 2

    59


    Not Used

    60
    BLK/WHT
    451E
    PCM Ground

    61
    ORN
    340C
    PCM Battery Feed

    62
    LT GRN
    1867
    Crankshaft Position Sensor B+ Supply

    63


    Not Used

    64
    GRY
    416
    MAP Sensor 5.0 Volt Reference

    65


    Not Used

    66
    GRY
    474
    A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor 5.0 Volt Reference

    67


    Not Used

    68
    LT BLU
    1876
    Knock Sensor (KS) Rear

    69
    DK BLU
    496
    Knock Sensor (KS) Front

    70
    PNK/BLK
    632
    Camshaft Position Sensor Ground

    71
    TAN
    800
    TAC Module Serial Data

    72
    ORN/BLK
    1061
    TAC Module Serial Data

    73–75


    Not Used

    76
    BRN
    1174
    Oil Level Sensor Signal

    77
    RED
    225
    Generator L Terminal

    78–80


    Not Used

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    2000 vette c 1 blue



    51
    DK BLU
    496
    Knock Sensor Signal Front (KS1)

    52


    Not Used

    53
    ORN/BLK
    1057
    Transmission Temperature Sensor Ground

    54
    ORN/BLK
    469
    MAP Sensor Ground

    55–56


    Not Used

    57
    ORN
    340
    PCM Battery Supply

    58
    DK GRN
    1049
    Serial Data

    59


    Not Used

    60
    BLK
    407
    A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Ground

    61
    PNK/BLK
    632
    Camshaft Position Sensor Ground

    62
    GRY
    847
    Extended Travel Brake Switch Signal

    63
    BLK
    452
    Engine Oil Pressure Sensor Ground

    64


    Not Used

    65
    PPL
    1670
    HO2S Signal High Bank 2 Sensor 2

    66
    PPL
    1666
    HO2S Signal High Bank 2 Sensor 1

    67


    Not Used

    68
    PPL/WHT
    1668
    HO2S Signal High Bank 1 Sensor 2

    69
    PPL/WHT
    1665
    HO2S Signal High Bank 1 Sensor 1

    70
    BRN
    1174
    Low Oil Level Switch

    71


    Not Used

    72
    YEL
    772
    PRND B Input Signal

    (Automatic Transmission Only)

    73
    BRN/WHT
    633
    Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor Signal

    74
    YEL
    410
    Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor Signal

    75


    Not Used

    76
    BLK/WHT
    845
    Injector 5 Control

    77
    DK BLU/WHT
    878
    Injector 8 Control

    78


    Not Used

    79
    GRY or WHT
    587 or 687
    2nd and 3rd Gear Block Out Solenoid Control (M/T) or 3–2 Shift Solenoid Control (A/T)

    80
    BRN
    718
    Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor Ground

    c2 red 2000 vette

    Pin
    Wire Color
    Circuit No.
    Function

    1
    BLK/WHT
    451
    PCM Ground

    (Automatic Transmission Only)

    2
    BRN
    418
    TCC Control Solenoid

    (Automatic Transmission Only)

    3


    Not Used

    4
    PPL
    421
    AIR Solenoid Control

    5
    TAN/BLK
    464
    Torque Delivered

    6
    RED/BLK
    1228
    Transmission Fluid Pressure Control Solenoid High

    (Automatic Transmission Only)

    7


    Not Used

    8
    LT BLU/WHT
    1229
    Transmission Fluid Pressure Control Solenoid Low

    (Automatic Transmission Only)

    9
    DK GRN/WHT
    465
    Fuel Pump Relay Control

    10
    WHT
    121
    Engine Speed (Tach) Output Signal

    11–13


    Not Used

    14
    RED/BLK
    380
    A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Signal

    15
    RED
    225
    Alternator L Terminal

    16


    Not Used

    17
    DK GRN/WHT
    762
    A/C Request Signal (C60 only)

    18
    DK GRN
    59
    A/C Status Signal

    19


    Not Used

    20
    PPL
    401
    Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) Reference Low

    21
    YEL
    400
    Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) Signal

    22–24


    Not Used

    25
    TAN
    472
    IAT Sensor Signal

    26
    PPL
    2121
    Ignition Control 1

    27
    RED
    2127
    Ignition Control 7

    28
    LT BLU/WHT
    2126
    Ignition Control 6

    29
    DK GRN/WHT
    2124
    Ignition Control 4

    30


    Not Used

    31
    YEL
    492
    MAF Sensor Signal

    32
    LT GRN
    432
    MAP Sensor Signal

    33
    DK BLU
    473
    Engine Cooling Fan Relay 2 and 3 Control

    34
    DK GRN/WHT
    428
    EVAP Canister Purge Valve Control

    35


    Not Used

    36
    BRN
    436
    AIR Pump Relay Control

    37–38


    Not Used

    39
    RED
    631
    Camshaft Position Sensor B+ Supply

    40
    BLK/WHT
    451
    PCM Ground

    41


    Not Used

    42
    TAN/BLK
    422
    TCC Enable Circuit

    (Automatic Transmission Only)

    43
    DK GRN/WHT
    459
    A/C Clutch Relay Control

    44
    LT GRN
    1652
    Reverse Inhibit Solenoid Control

    45
    WHT
    1310
    EVAP Canister Vent Valve Control

    46
    BRN/WHT
    419
    Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) Control

    47
    WHT or YEL/BLK
    375 or 1223
    1 to 4 Up-shift Lamp Control or Transmission Shift Solenoid B

    48
    LT GRN
    1222
    Transmission Shift Solenoid A

    49


    Not Used

    50
    DK GRN/WHT
    817
    Vehicle Speed Output Circuit

    51
    YEL/BLK
    1227
    Transmission Temperature Sensor Signal

    52
    GRY
    23
    Alternator F Terminal

    53


    Not Used

    54
    DK BLU
    1936
    Fuel Level Sensor Signal

    55–56


    Not Used

    57
    PPL
    719
    IAT Sensor Ground

    58
    TAN/WHT
    331
    Engine Oil Pressure Sensor Signal

    59


    Not Used

    60
    BRN
    2129
    Ignition Control Reference Low Bank 1

    61
    BRN/WHT
    2130
    Ignition Control Reference Low Bank 2

    62
    GRY
    773
    PRND C Input Signal

    (Automatic Transmission Only)

    63
    PNK
    1224
    Transmission Range Signal A

    (Automatic Transmission Only)

    64
    DK GRN
    890
    Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Signal

    65


    Not Used

    66
    PPL/WHT
    2128
    Ignition Control 8

    67
    RED/WHT
    2122
    Ignition Control 2

    68
    DK GRN
    2125
    Ignition Control 5

    69
    LT BLU
    2123
    Ignition Control 3

    70–72


    Not Used

    73
    LT BLU
    1937
    Fuel Level Sensor Signal (Secondary)

    74–80


    Not Used

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    ANy issue like fuel sending unit not reading right, etc?
    Factory Stock 97 SS M6 13.51 @ 104.3 mph
    Stock Longblock LS1 w/ 233/238 P.S.I. Cam
    10.81 @ 126.9 Full interior, six speed on 275 radials, a decade ago

    '99 TA trunk mounted 76mm 6 Liter
    9.0s in '09 @ 153 MPH

    Turbo 5.3 Volvo 740 Wagon
    32psi and still winding out 5th on the highway somewhere

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    If you had to guess time on repinning what would it be?

    Need 99-up connectors, cheapest way to get them?
    Factory Stock 97 SS M6 13.51 @ 104.3 mph
    Stock Longblock LS1 w/ 233/238 P.S.I. Cam
    10.81 @ 126.9 Full interior, six speed on 275 radials, a decade ago

    '99 TA trunk mounted 76mm 6 Liter
    9.0s in '09 @ 153 MPH

    Turbo 5.3 Volvo 740 Wagon
    32psi and still winding out 5th on the highway somewhere

  7. #7
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    junk yard prolly still plugged in to the ecm you need.....at least that's how lkq operates around here a lot of times.

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    https://www.eficonnection.com/eficon...spx?ItemId=286
    Pricey though...almost $120.. for a complete set

    I bought my ecu pins from Mouser and was happy with them, but I didn't see the connectors on their site
    Last edited by Markmx6; 08-18-2015 at 06:56 PM.

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    mouser is a great terminal source.

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    I just thought about this. Guy plugged in a 99 vette harness and ECU so the damn pcm pin side is fine. The pinouts I actually need to look at is the engine to chassis harness interface!
    Factory Stock 97 SS M6 13.51 @ 104.3 mph
    Stock Longblock LS1 w/ 233/238 P.S.I. Cam
    10.81 @ 126.9 Full interior, six speed on 275 radials, a decade ago

    '99 TA trunk mounted 76mm 6 Liter
    9.0s in '09 @ 153 MPH

    Turbo 5.3 Volvo 740 Wagon
    32psi and still winding out 5th on the highway somewhere