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    11 HD 6.0 A6 unable to command PE

    Good morning folks, I am working with a 11 Silvy HD 6.0 with the new E78 ECM. Everything seems to be working well but I cannot get this pig into power enrichment. I know that this is a new ecm and there is not a lot of info out yet but am hoping someone can point me in a direction. Below is an data log and tune file. I am on the newest beta (2.23.632).

    Thank in advance!



    Edit: I cannot paste the tune file due to the 4.0mb size exceeding the limit. Will try to find a work around.
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    Here is a screenshot capture, it is the best I can do.

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    ECT min is 493 degrees. I don't think you're going to get there.

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    Is yours using the piston protection as sort of a power enrichment?

    My work truck is a 2011 2500hd 6.0 A6, I glanced at the file in it and I seem to remember something about that, but I don't have the file in front of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodnarb View Post
    ECT min is 493 degrees. I don't think you're going to get there.
    That is the minimum temperature for PE delay which I do not want, I think I tried it both ways but could give it another shot. Have you tuned an E78 and if so how did you set yours up? Thanks for the input!
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    An actual tune to look at would be beneficial lol. I'm surprised it's bigger than 4.0MB's. We need a moderator in here to bump the file size limit to 5.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDRIVEAG8GT View Post
    An actual tune to look at would be beneficial lol. I'm surprised it's bigger than 4.0MB's. We need a moderator in here to bump the file size limit to 5.0.
    Agreed! Is there somewhere else I can post it for those interested to see/help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01 MidMet WS6 View Post
    Agreed! Is there somewhere else I can post it for those interested to see/help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDRIVEAG8GT View Post
    PM sent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01 MidMet WS6 View Post
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    Working on it good sir.

    This thing appears to be going into PE mode but it is misfiring something dirty or..... Well I'm not really sure. Notice the fuel trims default when you're steppin on it, but the log shows lean spikes all over the place. Not to mention the timing is doing some WEIRD things. I'm trying to iscolate the problem but looking at some of it, this thing must be a sick puppy when you hit WOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDRIVEAG8GT View Post
    Working on it good sir.

    This thing appears to be going into PE mode but it is misfiring something dirty or..... Well I'm not really sure. Notice the fuel trims default when you're steppin on it, but the log shows lean spikes all over the place. Not to mention the timing is doing some WEIRD things. I'm trying to iscolate the problem but looking at some of it, this thing must be a sick puppy when you hit WOT.
    Actually it runs very well, definitely no misfiring or issues. I attached a histogram below, it will help you see what I am doing with the pedal and how the TB is reacting. You will see later int the log that it is fully in closed loop and controlling trims at WOT.

    Edit: I think that weird timing is the dips for torque management, there is a lot of that on this truck!
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    It's weird my commanded AFR PID wasn't working on these trucks. I had to log Lambda and equate..

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    This is a new area for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailblazin' View Post
    It's weird my commanded AFR PID wasn't working on these trucks. I had to log Lambda and equate..
    I have tried that and it stays at 1.00.
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    any one figure this out ? I have a 2012 that I got to stay in pe till 5400 but after that back to CL ... all of the 11's I have done using EFI Live no problems but it will not work on this 12 either ?