Failed to Validate?

[UPP_COS]

I'm trying to tune a customers Cobalt SS, and I keep getting a failed to validate error. I also cannot connect with the scanner, but I can connect with a standard handheld OBDII scanner.

Any idea what would be causing this? Is it possible that if this has been tuned before it would be locking me out? It is connecting to some degree, because it's reading the VIN in the log file.

Operating System: Win32NT 6.0.6000.0
Microsoft .NET: 2.0.50727.3603
CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2080 @ 1.73GHz
Available Memory: 409 MB

VCM Suite Product: VCM Editor 2.23.3883.28871 Beta
VCM Suite Key:
VCM Suite ID:

GM Credits: 58 used out of 58 purchased.
Ford Credits: 12 used out of 12 purchased.
Dodge Credits: 0 used out of 0 purchased.

License slots available: 375

Single Vehicles:
86YMLMK152141TS1 - Chevy Cobalt (I4) 2006
86YMWRK36046DA4J - Chevy Cobalt (I4) 2006
6TMZFQ7156 - Buick Skylark (L4) 1997
1ZVHT82H585187470 - Ford Mustang (V8) 2008
0NA0HVLY5028 - Chevy Silverado (V8) 2005 - Yes
86YMUMM053533RWT - Pontiac GTO (V8) 2006 - yes
86YRTMK1804532P2 - Pontiac G8 (V8) 2009
8D4YR60165 - Buick Regal (V6) 2001
86YLMAM0521029KP - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2005
1ZVHT82H175197752 - Ford Mustang (V8) 2007
1EB1WCC11228 - GM Firebird/Camaro (V8) 2002
5EB3FW7Q6269 - GM Firebird/Camaro (V8) 2001
86YRPSK17263L7J3 - Pontiac G8 (V8) 2008
0NA06PHD4264 - GMC Sierra (V8) 2005
0J1EMF8016 - Chevy Corvette (V8) 1998
2KA0B47G4142 - Pontiac GTO (V8) 2004
0J0QWX7231 - GM Firebird/Camaro (V8) 1998
86CMUF??9111U2HH - Chevy Silverado (V8) 1999
1TV6TY1332 - Buick Century (V6) 2002
1ZVHT82H495103348 - Ford Mustang (V8) 2009
86YMUMM060053YNP - Pontiac GTO (V8) 2006
86AAMFK201133N54 - Chevy Camaro (V8) 2010
86YRUBK18259NZM8 - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2009
86AAMFK19317R69V - Chevy Camaro (V8) 2010
86YMYSK1605145BB - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2006
86YMYSK161146TLH - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2006
0J1KB48037 - GM Firebird/Camaro (V8) 1998
1ZVHT82H895111517 - Ford Mustang (V8) 2009
240104122080 - Chevy Avalanche (V8) 2002
1KA08Z6Y4036 - Pontiac GTO (V8) 2004
1EB1LBDH1159 - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2001
86YPNKK36214H0XF - Chevy Cobalt (I4) 2007

Single Vehicle VCM Enhancements:
86YMYSK161146TLH - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2006

ID: 1051030284 Date: 08/14/07
Hardware: 121 Firmware: 112
Part Number: 6220
Rom Status: 0 3F 0 81 0 1 0 FC FF
SPI Info: 20 15 A5 5A 4E 41 0 0
Config: CC 88 0 0 0 C0 System Status: F7 0 0 0
Comm. Status: 0 0 0 0 0 On Time: 00:02:34.5850000, 00:02:10.3250000

Type: Chevy Cobalt (I4) 2007, P12
VIN: 1G1AP15P077216792
VCM ID: 86YPNKK36300HX2N
ECM OS ID: 12610624 [Editor] P12
ECM Calibration IDs: 12610624 12608146 12618350 12614366 12616261 12612364 12612365 12611128
ECM Seed: 0

[Bill@HPTuners]

Try updating to the newest beta as the one you are using is roughly 2 years old and is no longer supported.

[UPP_COS]

Link? All I can find is the 2.22 which I thought was older than my beta?

CK

[Bill@HPTuners]

I posted the newest to your customer page.

[UPP_COS]

Thank you,

I'll try it, and get back with you.


CK

[UPP_COS]

Ok, so now the scaner works, and I'm able to connect, but now it says "Security Codes Denied - Unknown Error : 11" I read other posts on this, and they say do a read, then a write....but I can't even do a read, and since I've never read this car, I have nothing to write to it!

Here's my log:
Operating System: Win32NT 6.0.6000.0
Microsoft .NET: 4.0.30319.1
CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2080 @ 1.73GHz
Available Memory: 248 MB

VCM Suite Product: VCM Editor 2.23.546 Beta
VCM Suite Key:
VCM Suite ID: *******284

GM Credits: 58 used out of 58 purchased.
Ford Credits: 12 used out of 12 purchased.
Dodge Credits: 0 used out of 0 purchased.

License slots available: 375

Single Vehicles:
86YMLMK152141TS1 - Chevy Cobalt (I4) 2006
86YMWRK36046DA4J - Chevy Cobalt (I4) 2006
6TMZFQ7156 - Buick Skylark (L4) 1997
1ZVHT82H585187470 - Ford Mustang (V8) 2008
0NA0HVLY5028 - Chevy Silverado (V8) 2005 - Yes
86YMUMM053533RWT - Pontiac GTO (V8) 2006 - yes
86YRTMK1804532P2 - Pontiac G8 (V8) 2009
8D4YR60165 - Buick Regal (V6) 2001
86YLMAM0521029KP - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2005
1ZVHT82H175197752 - Ford Mustang (V8) 2007
1EB1WCC11228 - GM Firebird/Camaro (V8) 2002
5EB3FW7Q6269 - GM Firebird/Camaro (V8) 2001
86YRPSK17263L7J3 - Pontiac G8 (V8) 2008
0NA06PHD4264 - GMC Sierra (V8) 2005
0J1EMF8016 - Chevy Corvette (V8) 1998
2KA0B47G4142 - Pontiac GTO (V8) 2004
0J0QWX7231 - GM Firebird/Camaro (V8) 1998
86CMUF??9111U2HH - Chevy Silverado (V8) 1999
1TV6TY1332 - Buick Century (V6) 2002
1ZVHT82H495103348 - Ford Mustang (V8) 2009
86YMUMM060053YNP - Pontiac GTO (V8) 2006
86AAMFK201133N54 - Chevy Camaro (V8) 2010
86YRUBK18259NZM8 - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2009
86AAMFK19317R69V - Chevy Camaro (V8) 2010
86YMYSK1605145BB - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2006
86YMYSK161146TLH - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2006
0J1KB48037 - GM Firebird/Camaro (V8) 1998
1ZVHT82H895111517 - Ford Mustang (V8) 2009
240104122080 - Chevy Avalanche (V8) 2002
1KA08Z6Y4036 - Pontiac GTO (V8) 2004
1EB1LBDH1159 - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2001
86YPNKK36214H0XF - Chevy Cobalt (I4) 2007

Single Vehicle VCM Enhancements:
86YMYSK161146TLH - Chevy Corvette (V8) 2006

ID: 1051030284 Date: 08/14/07
Hardware: 121 Firmware: 114
Part Number: 6220
Rom Status: 0 3F 0 81 0 1 0 FC FF
SPI Info: 20 15 A5 5A 4E 41 0 0
Config: CC 88 0 0 0 C0 System Status: F7 0 0 0
Comm. Status: 0 0 0 0 0 On Time: 00:00:46.5850000, 00:00:46.5850000

Type: Chevy Cobalt (I4) 2007, P12
VIN: 1G1AP15P077216792
VCM ID: 86YPNKK36300HX2N
ECM OS ID: 12610624 [Editor] [Scanner] P12
ECM Calibration IDs: 12610624 12608146 12618350 12614366 12616261 12612364 12612365 12611128
ECM Seed: 0



Also I have to input my registration string EVERY time I open the editor or the scaner.


CK

[Bill@HPTuners]

Has the pcm been previously tuned? Have you tried 2.22 the newest stable software version? Can't say I've ever heard of seeing an unknown error 11 error on a p12 pcm, ever. So this is something new.

-Bill

[UPP_COS]

I'm not sure if it's been tuned, I can't download to find out what's on there. But from the way it's running I would say no.

Do I need to uninstall the Beta completely first, or just write over the top of it?

Or even better can I run them both at the same time on the same comp?

[UPP_COS]

Alright, I've tried 4 computers, and 3 different cables, and both versions (2.22 & 2.23), all pretty much the same result. One won't validate (original problem, prob because he doesn't have the latest beta version), and all the others give error code 11, unknown (inc V2.22).

I really need to get this customer rolling, please help..

CK

[Bill@HPTuners]

Pcm was likely previously tuned/tunerlocked.

[UPP_COS]

But wouldn't that give me a code besides 11? From what I've read Code 11 isn't even a real code that exists.


CK

[UPP_COS]

I just don't want to go order a PCM to find out that's not the problem.

CK

[Bill@HPTuners]

its an unknown code that we have no info on, if you aren't sure if the pcm has been tunerlocked but can't read it out we are just making an educated guess as well.

[UPP_COS]

If there's no core with another ordering another one, you want this one?

[UPP_COS]

So I've found a slew of LSJ P12 PCM's, but apparently they fit a whole bunch of vehicles? So how would I go about programing one of these to fit the SS? I've got a stock 07 SS file from another car (which I have already licensed), but from what I understand you shouldn't just go around writing files. So do I read the PCM license it, then copy/paste everything or is it a completely different OS that needs to be on there? The 12610624? The I assume I need to change the VIN too?

CK

[UPP_COS]

Ok, still having problems. I got a new ECU, HPT doesn't have the def file to support it...
I got ANOTHER ECU, this time from a SC Redline of the same year, I was finally able to read it!

But now the damn thing won't start. I tried VATS relink, says it's not supported. I disabled the VATS, did a write...nothing. Write entire....noting. Try to change the VIN and it tells me that I'm not licensed! (I'm assuming licensed for the chassis vin?) But I have no way to license the chassis because it would never let me read with the original PCM to license it. I don't get this. I was able to change the ecu just fine in my C5 vette. But this damn car is giving me such a headache...

Bill please help!

[Bill@HPTuners]

Technically speaking the malibu pcm you purchased is not supported hence the reason for the def file issue.

My advice would be to have the dealer flash to stock via tech 2 then reread. Unless the vehicle has some radical cams or some other oddball combination the vehicle should start/drive fine on the stock calibration.

[UPP_COS]

Fixed, Dealer flashed the new (used) ECU to the correct VIN and VATS info. Starts runs, and I'm able to tune.