S197 3V tuning guru's. Come inside.

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12-06-2016
Fayhee Motorsports

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S197 3V tuning guru's. Come inside.

Quick run down.

2007 Mustang 5 speed, stock 3.31 gear
MMR 4.75L 1000SE shortblock
MMR Stage 2 ported heads ( stock cams/valvetrain )
Cam phaser delete
C&L intake w/no IMRC ( stock TB )
60lb Ford Injectors
Pro-M slot MAF sensor
Aeromotive A1000 intank fuel pump
Aeromotive X1 regulator ( set to 40psi base w/ vac reference )
Aeromotive fuel rails ( no fuel pressure sensor )
All -8 feed and return lines
On3performance turbo kit w/ Comp billet 67/67 turbo journal bearing

Car runs great, maff dialed in great, good afr in boost 11.4-11.8 at 8-9psi
Car made 465hp/485tq with 15 degrees of timing
My only complaint is the turbo is laggy on gear changes. Im not big on ford ecms. I'm spoiled bye the LS1 ecms and there great fueling control for boost. I wish ford had the same type of set up. Feel free to look over my tune and throw back any feedback you may have. Im still a newbie when it comes to this Ford tuning stuff! :bigshock:
12-07-2016
SultanHassanMasTuning

cams dont help and IMRC delete also dont help.

i would invest in a good boost controller
12-07-2016
BNA

Is it going lean on the gear change?
12-07-2016
Fayhee Motorsports

I had a feeling the IMRC and phaser delete was most of the issue. With the stock motor before it spooled up just fine. Nice and quick. Would it be worth taking the cam phaser delete back out? We are gonna put some turbo cams in it, but for the time being if running the stock cams with no phaser would help ill do it.

BNA: No its not going lean on gear changes, just turbo lag. It probably wouldn't be as bad if i could ride out 14.7 afr longer before it transitions into boost but its such a fine line on fords in the maff curve you have to keep it rich. Boost fueling is terrible on for ecu's. lol
12-07-2016
Montecarlodrag

I think fueling is easier on Ford ECUs, you just need to find the throttle % when you make the switch to OL base fuel, then the MAF and fuel table will do everything.
You need to dial the MAF pretty good for it to be reliable but it works great. You just need to start thinking is Ford terms like LOAD because it's a very different strategy which is more accurate than Power Enrich in GMs. Once Fuel is dialed the AFR will be bassed off LOAD and it won't matter if the throttle is at 60% or WOT, the actual air that is entering the engine will dictate the fuel and spark. This compensates for the different load on the engine such as going uphill, towing or using slicks.
12-07-2016
The Notch

lol, stop letting off fast pedal when you shift:cool:
12-07-2016
Devildog1325

Im no Guru but these cars seem to loose quite a bit by getting rid of the phasers unless your going all out on big cams and I don't know why allot of people get rid of the FRPS unless the rail doesn't have a spot but even on a return system its still helps the computer in calculations with the injectors.
12-12-2016
hiperf454

help with the FORD cam sensor delete

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Originally Posted by Montecarlodrag

I think fueling is easier on Ford ECUs, you just need to find the throttle % when you make the switch to OL base fuel, then the MAF and fuel table will do everything.
You need to dial the MAF pretty good for it to be reliable but it works great. You just need to start thinking is Ford terms like LOAD because it's a very different strategy which is more accurate than Power Enrich in GMs. Once Fuel is dialed the AFR will be bassed off LOAD and it won't matter if the throttle is at 60% or WOT, the actual air that is entering the engine will dictate the fuel and spark. This compensates for the different load on the engine such as going uphill, towing or using slicks.

Montecarlodrag,
I am a Chevy guy but need some ford help. I have a customer that did the Cam Sensor Delete on a 2006 5.4 Trident. All they want me to do is the computer delete. So if I buy a ford credit is this going to be in my list of items I can turn off? I am sorry to interupt this thread but it came up in a search. I have not done alot with HP Tuner in the last year or better and need to answer this guy by tomorrow I usually can research this but have to work all night to get a car out. I greatly appreciate the info. I know its just 50.00 credit but right now things are tight. I dont want to tell him i can do it and then not be able to. Thank you again.
Kelly
12-13-2016
Devildog1325

Do you mean that he is locking out his cam phaser?
12-14-2016
Montecarlodrag

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Originally Posted by hiperf454

Montecarlodrag,
I am a Chevy guy but need some ford help. I have a customer that did the Cam Sensor Delete on a 2006 5.4 Trident. All they want me to do is the computer delete. So if I buy a ford credit is this going to be in my list of items I can turn off? I am sorry to interupt this thread but it came up in a search. I have not done alot with HP Tuner in the last year or better and need to answer this guy by tomorrow I usually can research this but have to work all night to get a car out. I greatly appreciate the info. I know its just 50.00 credit but right now things are tight. I dont want to tell him i can do it and then not be able to. Thank you again.
Kelly

You can license it, it will cost 2 credits (100 usd) to be able to modify anything in the calibration.
You can delete the DTC code for the cam sensor, but I don't know why you would delete it. Don't you mean the cam phaser?