Dodge Progress

Chris@HPTuners · 08-21-2008, 12:12 AM

Guys,

About time for an update

As you know we have been working hard to add support for the NGC3 ECM used in the late 2004, 2005, 2006 etc. Hemi. So far we are able to read & write the ECM, open, validate and save a file. Calibration definition development is moving along. We are also working on basic scanner support.

So far things are looking good with only some minor firmware changes required on the MPVI.

For those trivia buffs out there, this brings the total number of different controllers that VCM Suite supports to 36

Chris...

ElecTech · 08-21-2008, 06:36 AM

Wow! That's good news. I'm sure alot of people will be glad to hear that.

lewisb13 · 08-21-2008, 07:23 AM

Caliber SRT-4?

ElecTech · 08-21-2008, 09:39 AM

He's already said in a previous post what the first supported VCM will be.

BlackZJ · 08-21-2008, 02:36 PM

Any progress on JTEC Support? Or are there no plans to support them any time soon?

lewisb13 · 08-21-2008, 03:10 PM

I know this, I am asking when they think theyll start cracking into the new caliber srt-4.

Bill@HPTuners · 08-21-2008, 03:26 PM

I wouldn't expect any breaking news on those pcm's or any others, for that matter, until we are confident with our initial release & follow up. We would like to at least get Dodge stuff on the market and tested properly before we try and rule the world. From what I'm hearing the other dodge products on the market aren't all that good & from what I've been told appear to have been rushed to market. This is not what we want to do nor would our customers want to see this.

Also these pcm's take a while to work on from the initial stages all the way through to mapping their operating systems, so even if we started today on these caliber pcm's it wouldn't be until 5 or 6 months from now until we could release anything for them and quite honestly we haven't looked into them at all at this point.

Chris@HPTuners · 08-21-2008, 06:03 PM

As Bill said once we get the inital release of NGC3 to a point of happiness adding extra vehicle types for NGC3 will be relatively easy as they all seem to share a common code base although Dodge doesn't have a friendly calibration ID system as GM that seperately identifies OS and calibration revisions.

We have already done a lot of work for JTEC (the first Dodge PCM we read was a JTEC) and that will come in time. Keith owns a Viper so he is pushing for it as well

Chris...

BBA · 08-22-2008, 09:24 PM

Nice...my SRT buddy has been bugging me for months now.

lewisb13 · 08-25-2008, 10:31 AM

Is there any way someone can take a picture of the NSRT4s plug in spot? I am curious to see if mine is the same.

hexdummy · 08-25-2008, 11:07 PM

This is really great news, tuning with proper logging, histograms, and graphical editing !

I can hardly wait

black06g85 · 08-26-2008, 11:04 AM

nice so is there a beta or something I can try to read on my friends sRT, I literally have @60 cars waiting for this.

Bill@HPTuners · 08-31-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black06g85

nice so is there a beta or something I can try to read on my friends sRT, I literally have @60 cars waiting for this.

We are going to do some more internal testing as well as mapping out as many definitions as possible before hand so when we release the reading/write beta we won't get hit with as many definition failed to load errors.

BBA · 09-01-2008, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewisb13

Is there any way someone can take a picture of the NSRT4s plug in spot? I am curious to see if mine is the same.

They all use the same plug now. If it's a newer car, it's ODB-2 plain and simple.

Bill@HPTuners · 09-01-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBA

They all use the same plug now. If it's a newer car, it's ODB-2 plain and simple.

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the plugs on the pcm, not the obd2 port.

hexdummy · 09-02-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBA

They all use the same plug now. If it's a newer car, it's ODB-2 plain and simple.

It's way different, the Neon SRT4 has four connectors with three of the four populated with pins, looks just like any other NGC type engine controller. The Siemens controller that is used in the Caliber has two connectors on the edge, and looks like it came out of a european car.

- Chris

BBA · 09-03-2008, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill@HPTuners

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the plugs on the pcm, not the obd2 port.

That makes sense, even GM uses different PCM pin connectors every other year or so or even between models of the same year, even though they use the same ODB2 connector for the diag/scanner interface.

FAST Z · 09-06-2008, 06:37 PM

finally fa n ta stici n f oooooooooooo...

Tinman · 09-11-2008, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill@HPTuners

We are going to do some more internal testing as well as mapping out as many definitions as possible before hand so when we release the reading/write beta we won't get hit with as many definition failed to load errors.

This is great news Bill.
I have a 2008 Dodge Superbee eagerly awaiting this release!
If you need a beta tester, let me know.

I'll be checking back daily now, you got me on the edge!

turbosocks · 09-11-2008, 10:46 PM

i just came over here from srtconnection.com.

ever since i bought my car i have been looking into affordable, complete tuning.

Diablo is coming out with a predator, but unless the user takes there car to a CMR tuner, they can't do much at all as far as REAL tuning goes.

looks like the VCM suite is the cream of the crop.

as far as i can tell, the entire Scanner/Suite hooks up via OBDII port which would be an AWESOME advantage to other piggybacks and such.

i'm also guessing with this software, that you would be able to clear trouble codes like the over boost code and stuff?

from what i read, sounds like the pro system would be for me. would be nice to have the software able to log/tune with wideband AFRs. also noticed an autotune option when reading through the RTT section.

i cant wait further information on this setup.. sounds weird, but im VERY excited right now..

~650$ for the pro system, sounds like a great deal to me.

08-21-2008, 12:12 AM	#1
Chris@HPTuners HP Tuners Owner Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,083	Dodge Progress Guys, About time for an update As you know we have been working hard to add support for the NGC3 ECM used in the late 2004, 2005, 2006 etc. Hemi. So far we are able to read & write the ECM, open, validate and save a file. Calibration definition development is moving along. We are also working on basic scanner support. So far things are looking good with only some minor firmware changes required on the MPVI. For those trivia buffs out there, this brings the total number of different controllers that VCM Suite supports to 36 Chris... __________________ I count sheep in hex...
	Location: Melbourne, Australia

08-21-2008, 06:36 AM	#2
ElecTech Senior Tuner Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 154	Wow! That's good news. I'm sure alot of people will be glad to hear that. __________________ Jaime http://www.jamisoncustomcorvette.com http://www.greatdane633.blogspot.com
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08-21-2008, 07:23 AM	#3
lewisb13 Tuner Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 95	Caliber SRT-4? __________________

08-21-2008, 09:39 AM	#4
ElecTech Senior Tuner Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 154	He's already said in a previous post what the first supported VCM will be. __________________ Jaime http://www.jamisoncustomcorvette.com http://www.greatdane633.blogspot.com
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08-21-2008, 02:36 PM	#5
BlackZJ Tuner Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 65	Any progress on JTEC Support? Or are there no plans to support them any time soon? __________________ '97 Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ, 5.2L (Canada Import), 2" Lift (CAI, HS 1.7RR, Modded Kegger, Ported TB, High-Flow Cat, Magnaflow Cat-Back, SCT Custom Tune) '97 Mercedes Benz E320 Station-Wagon, Stock
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08-21-2008, 03:10 PM	#6
lewisb13 Tuner Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 95	I know this, I am asking when they think theyll start cracking into the new caliber srt-4. __________________

08-21-2008, 03:26 PM	#7
Bill@HPTuners HP Tuners Support (foff667) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 15,975	I wouldn't expect any breaking news on those pcm's or any others, for that matter, until we are confident with our initial release & follow up. We would like to at least get Dodge stuff on the market and tested properly before we try and rule the world. From what I'm hearing the other dodge products on the market aren't all that good & from what I've been told appear to have been rushed to market. This is not what we want to do nor would our customers want to see this. Also these pcm's take a while to work on from the initial stages all the way through to mapping their operating systems, so even if we started today on these caliber pcm's it wouldn't be until 5 or 6 months from now until we could release anything for them and quite honestly we haven't looked into them at all at this point. __________________ Last edited by Bill@HPTuners : 08-21-2008 at 03:28 PM.
	Location: Trenton, NJ

08-21-2008, 06:03 PM	#8
Chris@HPTuners HP Tuners Owner Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,083	As Bill said once we get the inital release of NGC3 to a point of happiness adding extra vehicle types for NGC3 will be relatively easy as they all seem to share a common code base although Dodge doesn't have a friendly calibration ID system as GM that seperately identifies OS and calibration revisions. We have already done a lot of work for JTEC (the first Dodge PCM we read was a JTEC) and that will come in time. Keith owns a Viper so he is pushing for it as well Chris... __________________ I count sheep in hex...
	Location: Melbourne, Australia

08-22-2008, 09:24 PM	#9
BBA Senior Tuner Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 878	Nice...my SRT buddy has been bugging me for months now.

08-25-2008, 10:31 AM	#10
lewisb13 Tuner Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 95	Is there any way someone can take a picture of the NSRT4s plug in spot? I am curious to see if mine is the same. __________________

08-25-2008, 11:07 PM	#11
hexdummy Tuner Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 76	This is really great news, tuning with proper logging, histograms, and graphical editing ! I can hardly wait
	Location: Los Angeles

08-26-2008, 11:04 AM	#12
black06g85 Senior Tuner Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 220	nice so is there a beta or something I can try to read on my friends sRT, I literally have @60 cars waiting for this. __________________ mods= turbonetics HiFi 60-1 ball bearing t3/t04E Hahn Racecraft Intake manifold Hahn Racecraft FMIC 4.5" core custom hot and cold side hard piping 79lb/hr injectors vulcan equal length tubular manifold 3" turbo back TiAl 38mm wastegate newly built motor, more to come soon
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09-06-2008, 06:37 PM	#18
FAST Z Tuner Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 34	finally fa n ta stici n f oooooooooooo...

09-11-2008, 10:46 PM	#20
turbosocks Junior Tuner Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5	i just came over here from srtconnection.com. ever since i bought my car i have been looking into affordable, complete tuning. Diablo is coming out with a predator, but unless the user takes there car to a CMR tuner, they can't do much at all as far as REAL tuning goes. looks like the VCM suite is the cream of the crop. as far as i can tell, the entire Scanner/Suite hooks up via OBDII port which would be an AWESOME advantage to other piggybacks and such. i'm also guessing with this software, that you would be able to clear trouble codes like the over boost code and stuff? from what i read, sounds like the pro system would be for me. would be nice to have the software able to log/tune with wideband AFRs. also noticed an autotune option when reading through the RTT section. i cant wait further information on this setup.. sounds weird, but im VERY excited right now.. ~650$ for the pro system, sounds like a great deal to me.
	Location: ABQ, NM