I forgot to mention that I am using a LC 1 with my settings at 0v is 10afr and 5v is 18
I forgot to mention that I am using a LC 1 with my settings at 0v is 10afr and 5v is 18
Can anyone tell me if I have EGR turned on in my tune properly? I think I have the PID made correct now but I am not hetting a real reading.
I'd just like to double check that the Dynojet Wideband Commander works with HP tuners...?
Absolutely.
Bill Winters
Former owner/builder/tuner of the FarmVette
Out of the LSx tuning game
Just found this site, I have not ordered from them. $45.98
http://www.oxygensensor.net/widebandsensors.html
some Bosch WB O2 sensor data I've collected:
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16589
Bill Winters
Former owner/builder/tuner of the FarmVette
Out of the LSx tuning game
I'm researching and preparing to purchase WB O2 for the first time so I can play with SD tuning. Most of my questions have been answered by the plethora of information already posted (thanks to everyone who shared)... But there are still two simple questions I can't find an answer to. Plus, while I'm at it, I thought I might make sure I'm looking at the right part(s).
I do not want to mount any gaudy gauges in the car. I'm not a racer, just an enthusiast. Am I correct in understanding that buying this one part will take care of me? Regardless of that answer, do you recommend anything different? Is this one notoriously problematic/inaccurate/etc?
Innovate Motorsports 3744 - Innovate LC-1 Standalone Wideband Controller (from Summit Racing)
I've searched high and low for these next two answers. They are so simple, they have to have been asked before, but I'm not finding them... So I'll just ask. I'll even make them multiple choice (although I welcome all feedback).
What do I do with the original NB O2 sensors?
a) Replace with WB, but only when tuning?
b) Permanently replace with WB O2.
c) Leave them alone, make new bung(s) for the WB.
One or two WB O2 sensors?
a) Doesn't even work with two.
b) Two works, but why bother? One works just as well.
c) Two aren't necessary, but are better than having just one.
d) Two are strongly recommended, but one will work in a pinch.
e) Two are an absolute requirement. Get two or get none.
Thanks for the help and tips, as always!
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2004 GTO (LS1)
K&N FIPK (dual ram-air "under construction")
2.75" exhaust, high flow cats, x-pipe, & Spintech "mufflers"
Wilwood brakes, 14" rotors w/ 6 pistons in front, 4 pistons rear
Pedders drag springs
245/35/19 & 275/30/19
Banshee hood (carbon fiber), RK Sport front bumper, one-off rear bumper
*correct me if im wrong*
get a bung welded to your x-pipe. Dont really think driver/passenger side is going to make THAT much of a difference in your wideband reading. and 1 should work fine...
2001 Camaro SS
Ford shootout link doesn't work. What were the results?
Last edited by Bell040; 03-30-2010 at 09:32 PM.
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2004 GTO (LS1)
K&N FIPK (dual ram-air "under construction")
2.75" exhaust, high flow cats, x-pipe, & Spintech "mufflers"
Wilwood brakes, 14" rotors w/ 6 pistons in front, 4 pistons rear
Pedders drag springs
245/35/19 & 275/30/19
Banshee hood (carbon fiber), RK Sport front bumper, one-off rear bumper
C & B
Anywhere before the cats is fine.
Bill Winters
Former owner/builder/tuner of the FarmVette
Out of the LSx tuning game
Well that rules out the X-pipe... So, either side works just as well? I just need to pick one?
Also, is the WB I posted sufficient? Quality? Total crap? I am looking for something economical, permanently mounted, and free from any gauges or control boxes in the car... I will only be using it with HP Tuners.
Here it is again:
Innovate Motorsports 3744 - Innovate LC-1 Standalone Wideband Controller (from Summit Racing)
Thanks again to everyone!
"The Executioner"
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2004 GTO (LS1)
K&N FIPK (dual ram-air "under construction")
2.75" exhaust, high flow cats, x-pipe, & Spintech "mufflers"
Wilwood brakes, 14" rotors w/ 6 pistons in front, 4 pistons rear
Pedders drag springs
245/35/19 & 275/30/19
Banshee hood (carbon fiber), RK Sport front bumper, one-off rear bumper
Pretty sure that will work fine, i have no experience w/ that one though. And for a ref. mine bung is located on the driver side x pipe before the merge.
I will be ditching my PLX and going to a NGK AFX wideband.
2001 Camaro SS
I was just looking into it a bit further... This one is teh controller ONLY, and has no actual WB O2 sensor included:
Innovate Motorsports 3744 - Innovate LC-1 Standalone Wideband Controller
Glad I caught that...
The correct part, that INCLUDES the WB O2 is this one:
Innovate Motorsports 3769 - Innovate LC-1 Lambda Cables with O2 Sensor
I'm ordering that one... If Summit will ever let me log in! Ugh...
"The Executioner"
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Track The Executioner on Facebook
2004 GTO (LS1)
K&N FIPK (dual ram-air "under construction")
2.75" exhaust, high flow cats, x-pipe, & Spintech "mufflers"
Wilwood brakes, 14" rotors w/ 6 pistons in front, 4 pistons rear
Pedders drag springs
245/35/19 & 275/30/19
Banshee hood (carbon fiber), RK Sport front bumper, one-off rear bumper
Put it on the side that is likely to be leaner. So since #7 is notorious for that, use the driver's side.
LC-1's are widely used but IMO not reliable (meaning they break often). And the one you have a link to is just the controller without a sensor. You need a sensor too. The best thing going right now IMO is the NGK AFX with NTK sensor.
Bill Winters
Former owner/builder/tuner of the FarmVette
Out of the LSx tuning game
Thats what i like to hear!
Hey im pretty sure ive read that the NTK sensor was only really necessary for tuning with leaded fuels?
2001 Camaro SS
Got it. Easy 'nuff.
This is just flippin sweet... I just finished the order (for LC-1 WITH the sensor) when your post came through advising against the LC-1. What's worse, I quickly checked the warranty, and it doesn't cover the O2 sensor... So if that is what is prone to breaking, then it will cost out-of-pocket to replace when it breaks.
I called Summit back and canceled the order, and ordered the AFX. So, problem averted.
The AFX is on the way and will be here before my MVPI Pro upgrade, most likely... But that will give me time to get the bung welded on. So I'll be taking a couple of weeks off from tuning, I suppose.
Thanks to 5_Liter_Eater and sidewayz28 for the feedback.
"The Executioner"
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Track The Executioner on Facebook
2004 GTO (LS1)
K&N FIPK (dual ram-air "under construction")
2.75" exhaust, high flow cats, x-pipe, & Spintech "mufflers"
Wilwood brakes, 14" rotors w/ 6 pistons in front, 4 pistons rear
Pedders drag springs
245/35/19 & 275/30/19
Banshee hood (carbon fiber), RK Sport front bumper, one-off rear bumper
I am about to embark on the same journey...
where did you get your AFX?
Oh and... I found the WB shootout article... looks like Innovative is the way to go:
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/r...B_Shootout.pdf
Last edited by Bell040; 03-31-2010 at 06:11 PM.
summitracing.com. i can give you a link when i get out of traffic
"The Executioner"
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Track The Executioner on Facebook
2004 GTO (LS1)
K&N FIPK (dual ram-air "under construction")
2.75" exhaust, high flow cats, x-pipe, & Spintech "mufflers"
Wilwood brakes, 14" rotors w/ 6 pistons in front, 4 pistons rear
Pedders drag springs
245/35/19 & 275/30/19
Banshee hood (carbon fiber), RK Sport front bumper, one-off rear bumper
i think Greg had something to say about that article.. and for some reason i wana say it was paid for by innovative or something like that. I think i found that info on the EFIlive forum..
Ill try to find the link later tonight after work
2001 Camaro SS