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Thread: Pe mode WOT AFR's running lean

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by foff667
    dont fall into the trap even I fell into once thinking SD & OPEN LOOP are the same thing...you could be in SD closed loop or SD open loop, obviously if your in SD closed loop your not going to be running on the OPEN LOOP FUEL ADDER table
    Yes, i understand you can be ol or cl in SD mode. I was talking OL/WOT
    Paul Meister
    www.steeda.ca
    twin turbo 03 cobra - 730rwhp on pump gas

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Russ K
    The IAT sensor is part of the maf, so don't unplug the maf. Set the maf fail freq to 0. You will now have code P0103.

    Russ Kemp
    Correct, and this is why on boosted vehicles we tap a IAT sensor in the air stream seeing boosted air
    Paul Meister
    www.steeda.ca
    twin turbo 03 cobra - 730rwhp on pump gas

  3. #23
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    The 12% discrepancy between commanded and actual has
    to come either from the airflow side or the fuel side. The
    VE tuning methods don't really separate the two but tune
    to a result. This may give you perfectly calibrated airflow
    readings, or it may give you airflow and fuel shot prediction
    that are both wrong but compensate each other. Like the
    advice several years ago was to jack the IFR table to get
    fuel trims right, irrespective of whether the injectors were
    wrong or not. Do this and then tune VE, you have a "two
    wrongs make a right" situation.

    If your MAF and VE-based airflows are fairly close in the
    4000-5000RPM range then I would suspect it's not an
    airflow-side problem.

    If your AFR starts off matching OK in the midband but
    falls away with RPM then look to fuel delivery - pressure
    at the rails, duty cycle clipping, etc.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    Correct me if i am wrong:
    The enrichment rate also needs to to be paid attention to. From my understanding this is a multiplier for fuel. A cobalt is .020 and a Vette is 1.00 if you needed an example.
    The enrichment rate sets how quickly you get to your selected enrichment value. From the scanner, if you log FA Mult you can see this value ramping up when you go into PE, and then ramping down when coming out of PE. Changing the enrichment rate affects the slope of these ramps.

  5. #25
    Correct, in the ford world this is called open loop delay. You want the enrichment as fast as possible when going WOT
    Paul Meister
    www.steeda.ca
    twin turbo 03 cobra - 730rwhp on pump gas