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    My take on Injectors for 2011-2017 Mustang 5.0

    Ok so some of you might know I went to a procharger setup on my 2014 GT, the injectors that came with this kit are on the smaller side(think bean counter) they were the 47lb G302 injectors and I'm pushing about 10psi@7000rpms, by 6200 rpms I was out of injector with a commanded lambda of .8 running 93 octane E10 gas by 6500 I was going completely lean so they were worthless in the end. For my setup going to the 13-14 GT500 injectors(which are a 52lb injector at the same psi as the g302's) would've also been pointless IMO as there was no way the 5lb leeway would've been enough to cover the amount of fuel i'd need to get in a reasonable place ie 85-95% IDC. With ID725's no longer produced and ID1000's also no longer produced I went with the ID1050x's by injector dynamics. Let me tell you they are a quality piece, if you pick up their 1050.60.14.14B.8 they are a direct drop in(at least for my car) using the STOCK injector rail spacers and stock injector rails. I had the procharger injector rail spacers in the car and tried taking the hat off the 1050x's but because of where the connector is on them they sit VERY low and I'm not 100% sure I could've gotten all the connector plugs onto the connectors themselves so stick with the stock spacers, the injectors went in without a hitch. I threw in the injector dynamics data that is on their website and started it up with not so much as a hiccup, it idles as good if not better than the 47lb ford injectors and just as good as the stock injectors. As far as performance goes I went from 100% idc@6200 rpms to 51%@6200 so I've got plenty of room to go & grow in this case. My advice would be if you are thinking about adding a blower to your car as a "complete" kit and by that I'm not talking about procharger alone, vortech/paxton, vmp, whipple, whatever your flavor just skip over the 52, 56lb injectors and go straight to ID1050's or higher if you plan on going balls to the wall powerwise. It will save you a few hundred up front and possibly an engine. Most of those complete kits are for completely stock vehicles running the largest pulley for that setup and they will be on the ragged edge of going lean if you do much of anything. Notice even procharger only offers a complete kit for the 15-17 with the id1050x's they aren't even fooling around with the 47's for them and they are virtually the same motor.

    Hopefully someone finds this information helpful, it will save you time swapping out injectors(I went from stock to 47 then to id1050x within a week) and money in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill@HPTuners View Post
    Ok so some of you might know I went to a procharger setup on my 2014 GT, the injectors that came with this kit are on the smaller side(think bean counter) they were the 47lb G302 injectors and I'm pushing about 10psi@7000rpms, by 6200 rpms I was out of injector with a commanded lambda of .8 running 93 octane E10 gas by 6500 I was going completely lean so they were worthless in the end. For my setup going to the 13-14 GT500 injectors(which are a 52lb injector at the same psi as the g302's) would've also been pointless IMO as there was no way the 5lb leeway would've been enough to cover the amount of fuel i'd need to get in a reasonable place ie 85-95% IDC. With ID725's no longer produced and ID1000's also no longer produced I went with the ID1050x's by injector dynamics. Let me tell you they are a quality piece, if you pick up their 1050.60.14.14B.8 they are a direct drop in(at least for my car) using the STOCK injector rail spacers and stock injector rails. I had the procharger injector rail spacers in the car and tried taking the hat off the 1050x's but because of where the connector is on them they sit VERY low and I'm not 100% sure I could've gotten all the connector plugs onto the connectors themselves so stick with the stock spacers, the injectors went in without a hitch. I threw in the injector dynamics data that is on their website and started it up with not so much as a hiccup, it idles as good if not better than the 47lb ford injectors and just as good as the stock injectors. As far as performance goes I went from 100% idc@6200 rpms to 51%@6200 so I've got plenty of room to go & grow in this case. My advice would be if you are thinking about adding a blower to your car as a "complete" kit and by that I'm not talking about procharger alone, vortech/paxton, vmp, whipple, whatever your flavor just skip over the 52, 56lb injectors and go straight to ID1050's or higher if you plan on going balls to the wall powerwise. It will save you a few hundred up front and possibly an engine. Most of those complete kits are for completely stock vehicles running the largest pulley for that setup and they will be on the ragged edge of going lean if you do much of anything. Notice even procharger only offers a complete kit for the 15-17 with the id1050x's they aren't even fooling around with the 47's for them and they are virtually the same motor.

    Hopefully someone finds this information helpful, it will save you time swapping out injectors(I went from stock to 47 then to id1050x within a week) and money in the long run.

    Have fun and stay toooooned
    DW also make really good injectors that work well with the stock rails and spacer, the DW88's are ~1100cc@55psi and run you around half of what the ID1050's do. I had been recommending DW95's to everyone until I looked up the data sheet and realized the DW95's are marketed as 95#@55psi where the DW88 is 88#@39psi...IIRc the DW88 is 1100cc@55psi...

    If you end up wanting to run e85 through your set up hit me up before you go and buy a $1000+ fuel system...I offer a system that will support around 800whp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jn2 View Post
    DW also make really good injectors that work well with the stock rails and spacer, the DW88's are ~1100cc@55psi and run you around half of what the ID1050's do. I had been recommending DW95's to everyone until I looked up the data sheet and realized the DW95's are marketed as 95#@55psi where the DW88 is 88#@39psi...IIRc the DW88 is 1100cc@55psi...

    If you end up wanting to run e85 through your set up hit me up before you go and buy a $1000+ fuel system...I offer a system that will support around 800whp
    No plans currently, hard to find a pump close to me thus far, the closest one was supposedly 15 miles away and so a 30 mile round trip for a tank that might take me 150 miles max isn't worth it as it sits.
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    Bill - I like the black blower. Looks good. I built my engine with ID1000s with the plans to eventually run E85, but here in Northern Virginia, it is practically non-existent. I am jealous of all the guys in Florida who have access to E85 at just about every station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 15PSI View Post
    Bill - I like the black blower. Looks good. I built my engine with ID1000s with the plans to eventually run E85, but here in Northern Virginia, it is practically non-existent. I am jealous of all the guys in Florida who have access to E85 at just about every station.
    It really depends where you are in florida, I'm in florida and trust me its not at every station lol.
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    I have had success with IDs, FIC and FRPP injectors. ID has the most complete data. FIC had a couple of spots to fill in but plenty of data for success.

    I'll run FIC on my car when the time comes for the next chapter.