Beta Calculators

[murfie]

So I just noticed these under edit after downloading the latest beta. I dont know how long its been available in the beta or if anyone has played with it. Playing around with some small changes I get some interesting results. May help make things easier for people working on these tables. I'm surprised I have not seen anything mentioned about this even if it is still in beta with how much people have been wanting for something like it.

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[Thatwhite5.0]

I messed with it for an hour a few weeks ago on cj/twin 67, just using the results from a few histograms.
When you calculate, it automatically updates said tables without having to copy and paste.
I think it will take more than a histogram to fill the cells for ETC properly. My results would have 0's in the first 5 or 6 columns, angled towards the last row.
Drivability was not bad. I was getting a little oscillation at light throttle, full throttle has no problem.

I want to mess with it some more. It's better than just changing predicted or making a guess.

[schaid]

I cannot wait to use this on a kenne bell 168mm throttle body I've been fighting with since July! All of the published approaches only get it so close. Thinking I may have something miscalculated somewhere. This should at least help. Way to go HPT!

[bbrooks98]

Wasn't it concluded that getting a back calculated torque value from logged load would be an easier task that doesn't require a dyno? Hopefully that could be implemented too, but either way awesome to see these things added to the software!

[tbrtuning]

Thanks for posting this. I have been tuning 2004 and older Mustangs mostly the last couple weeks and haven't even paid enough attention to realize this was there.

[jchambers]

I think key is to have a little bit of a write-up on how they intend it to be used =>correctly<=. I believe Eric has said that this is coming.

[Bill@HPTuners]

Yeah we are prepping them now, I've already gotten to see most of the VE calc one

[tbrtuning]

Yeah we are prepping them now, I've already gotten to see most of the VE calc one

Awesome. This is really going to put you guys even further ahead of the competition.

[Jn2]

Yeah we are prepping them now, I've already gotten to see most of the VE calc one

The speed density one looks killer, can't wait to see a guide on how to use it, or if we can make histograms that can be imported into the calculator in order to populate them...

[tbrtuning]

I have been tuning mostly EEC-V lately and it seems like getting the Load With Failed MAF correct makes a noticeable difference so I'm curious if getting this stuff right on the newer ECUs will have the same kind of impact.

[bbrooks98]

Speed density calculator is very cool. Adjusting the axises into boost like the roush cals gives an idea of how it can be rescaled for a boosted car very easily.

[GHuggins]

Finally... Thank You HPT...

Will the VVE tool be getting added into all of the OSs including Roush, Whipple and so on?

[Eric@HPTuners]

Finally... Thank You HPT...

Will the VVE tool be getting added into all of the OSs including Roush, Whipple and so on?

Speed Density calculator "should" work on all 2015+ vehicles currently, including those.

The pre-2015 stuff is "slightly" different, and we will be updating the calculator to work on those vehicles in the next few days.

[Witt]

The pre-2015 stuff is "slightly" different, and we will be updating the calculator to work on those vehicles in the next few days.

Thanks for the update. I look forward to trying it on the Copperheads.

[GHuggins]

Speed Density calculator "should" work on all 2015+ vehicles currently, including those.

The pre-2015 stuff is "slightly" different, and we will be updating the calculator to work on those vehicles in the next few days.

It's not available as an option in the editor in all of them Eric... Here's one for example - whipple tune...

AND thanks again - been waiting for this for a while now...

[Eric@HPTuners]

It's not available as an option in the editor in all of them Eric... Here's one for example - whipple tune...

AND thanks again - been waiting for this for a while now...

Update again. It should be good now.

[GHuggins]

Thank You Eric... On a side note - any good read ups on a walk through on how to correctly fail the MAF and make corrections or do you even fail the MAF - also looks like an external map sensor is needed? Teaches me for not learning more on Fords early on :/

[15PSI]

I have the same question . BTW, Steven's write-up on the VE calculator is great reading, but honestly will take me a bit longer to understand the finer points. Will there be a similar how-to on the ETC Effective Area and Torque Inverse Calculators? I played with both yesterday, but am not sure I am starting from a position of knowledge LOL.

[Eric@HPTuners]

Thank You Eric... On a side note - any good read ups on a walk through on how to correctly fail the MAF and make corrections or do you even fail the MAF - also looks like an external map sensor is needed? Teaches me for not learning more on Fords early on :/

You would tune the MAF cars like normal, and then populate the table with the correct load values. You would need a MAP sensor wired up.

[Eric@HPTuners]

I have the same question . BTW, Steven's write-up on the VE calculator is great reading, but honestly will take me a bit longer to understand the finer points. Will there be a similar how-to on the ETC Effective Area and Torque Inverse Calculators? I played with both yesterday, but am not sure I am starting from a position of knowledge LOL.

It's coming.