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    V3.6 with unknown noise source

    Being a bit of a HPT newbie, thanks in advance for the help.

    Using V3.6.16 downloaded earlier this week. New Ballenger AFR 500V2 standard connected to a 2011 EIO. The tune is essentially a 1bar MAP, Lingenfelter MAF, LS6 supercharged. All is retrofitted into a 1968 Camaro. The ECM has worked flawlessly since 2008, retuned for TVS1900 in 2010.

    The problem is what appears to be noise in in #4 I/O. See screenshot below, lavender line for MAP.

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    The early time index with the smooth line is engine off. When the "noise" starts is engine start. However, the green I/O plug is disconnected at all times.

    First thought, grounds. Commonizing the serial port, interface, etc. to a single battery negative yielded no change.

    Oscilloscope readings on the IGN power to the OBDII connector also showed no significant differences than the battery.

    A new cable from the interface to the laptop: no change.

    When attaching a pressure sensor to #4, the "noise" gets worse (amplifies.) It will also occur at KOEO with no other inputs on I/O #1-3 but the ground still connected from #5 to OBDII to BAT-.

    With the green connector disconnected, grounding I/O #4 just pulls down the noise, it does not cancel it.

    I/O #2-3 are fuel pressure sensors. These too tend to be noisy when the car is running. Disconnecting them completely from the interface and grounds changed nothing on I/0 #4.

    It does not appear that the polling rate for the I/O's can be changed, so possible smoothing by going to a lower frequency seems to be out. The "noise" should still not be occurring.

    I'm open to trying anything.

    Thanks for the help.

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    The inputs are not reliable when they are not connected.
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    Keith,

    Thank you for the feedback. However, as stated above, when the inputs are connected the noise is amplified. It gets worse.

    "When attaching a pressure sensor to #4, the "noise" gets worse (amplifies.) It will also occur at KOEO with no other inputs on I/O #1-3 but the ground still connected from #5 to OBDII to BAT-."

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    The MPVI input could be failing then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith@HPTuners View Post
    The MPVI input could be failing then.
    If that's the case what is the best course to have it checked and how best to reference the problem?

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    You'll have to open up a support ticket.
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    Typically we troubleshoot analog input issues using the AA battery method as explained here https://www.hptuners.com/forum/showt...o-troubleshoot
    It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...

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