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    Brand new guy with probably worn out questions...

    I am doing a engine swap in my 08' wrangler. The engine is a ls3 / 525. My questions are....

    1) I am getting a brand new E38 ECU for this engine. Is there a general "base tune" available for this engine that's good enough to get it running and drive a little bit?

    2) I am not wanting to run cats on the motor, and therefore would like to NOT install downstream o2 sensors. Should I rethink this from a tuning standpoint?

    3) Is installing a wideband a great thing to do to aid with tuning?

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    The new LS3 engine isn't coming with a computer and you have to buy a seperate one?

    The new computer will have to be programmed by a dealership first or maybe someone with a GM scan tool with access to files. Maybe they have calibrations for it seeing how they sell the engines.

    Rear o2 sensors are fine to leave out.


    A wideband is a must in my eyes for tuning.
    2016 Silverado CCSB 5.3/6L80e, not as slow but still heavy.

    If you don't post your tune and logs when you have questions you aren't helping yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5FDP View Post
    The new LS3 engine isn't coming with a computer and you have to buy a seperate one?

    The new computer will have to be programmed by a dealership first or maybe someone with a GM scan tool with access to files. Maybe they have calibrations for it seeing how they sell the engines.

    Rear o2 sensors are fine to leave out.


    A wideband is a must in my eyes for tuning.

    Yes have to buy it separate. Why would it have to be programmed by a dealership? Seems like someone could just throw a super basic tune on it and go from there?

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    Most new PCM's are blank, there is no starting file on there. The E38 is used in many different vehicles, like camaro's, silverado/sierra/tahoe/escalade/yukon. All of those are a tad different than the other when it comes to stock calibrations.
    2016 Silverado CCSB 5.3/6L80e, not as slow but still heavy.

    If you don't post your tune and logs when you have questions you aren't helping yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5FDP View Post
    Most new PCM's are blank, there is no starting file on there. The E38 is used in many different vehicles, like camaro's, silverado/sierra/tahoe/escalade/yukon. All of those are a tad different than the other when it comes to stock calibrations.

    Right, I'm here looking for a file to load from someone who may have tuned one of these before. I realize that it won't be perfect but it's better than nothing right.

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    HP Tuners can't write to a blank PCM though, sorry to repeat myself but it will need a starting file from a dealer.
    2016 Silverado CCSB 5.3/6L80e, not as slow but still heavy.

    If you don't post your tune and logs when you have questions you aren't helping yourself.

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    Ahh, I get it now.