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Thread: V3.0 NGK WB AFR Error works fine... with AEM 30-0300 CAN... it doesnt

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    V3.0 NGK WB AFR Error works fine... with AEM 30-0300 CAN... it doesnt

    Is there something else I should be doing to get the AFR Error working with the AEM 30-0300 CAN update? I had AFR Error working fine with the NGK AFX, now swapped that out with the AEM 30-0300 over CAN, and I get mostly 26% error in all cells... seems to be working at WOT.. but not in closed loop.

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    OMG AEM SUCKS!! rawr rawr rawr.

    Now that that's out of the way...

    What's your channel list look like? Do you still have the old transform there for the NGK WB?
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    dang, I removed the analog input on the channels list once but somehow it was still there... maybe I had two Scanners open... huh. Im sure it will work now, thanks
    2010 Camaro LS3 (E38 ECU - Spark only). MS3X running complete RTT fuel control (wideband).
    Whipple 2.9L, 3.875" Pulley, kit injectors, supplied MSD Boost-A-Pump, stock pump
    LG Motorsports 1 7/8" Headers - No Cats, stock mid pipe with JBA Axle Back
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    Maybe!
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    Welp, nope... I scanned with just the AEM in the channels and now I just get no value in the AFR Error Graphs... anything with AFR Error now shows no value, but the cell moves around like it should.. Its like the AEM Can value isnt making into the Maths for AFR Err? Is that possible?
    2010 Camaro LS3 (E38 ECU - Spark only). MS3X running complete RTT fuel control (wideband).
    Whipple 2.9L, 3.875" Pulley, kit injectors, supplied MSD Boost-A-Pump, stock pump
    LG Motorsports 1 7/8" Headers - No Cats, stock mid pipe with JBA Axle Back
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    Can you post a log real quick?

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    yessir... thanks for all the help


    124a no AEM AFR Error.hpl
    Camaro.Layout.xml
    2010 Camaro LS3 (E38 ECU - Spark only). MS3X running complete RTT fuel control (wideband).
    Whipple 2.9L, 3.875" Pulley, kit injectors, supplied MSD Boost-A-Pump, stock pump
    LG Motorsports 1 7/8" Headers - No Cats, stock mid pipe with JBA Axle Back
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    Add commanded EQ ratio to what you're logging and then use EQ Ratio Error instead of AFR Error and it should work (if you aren't already using EQ Ratio error, I didn't look at your config).

    Basically AFR error needs commanded AFR and wideband AFR. You have commanded AFR but no wideband AFR, so that one doesn't work. Then there's EQ Ratio error which needs commanded EQ ratio and wideband lambda. You have wideband lambda but no commanded EQ.

    So.. try adding commanded EQ to your list of channels and I think it'll work then
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    Quote Originally Posted by schpenxel View Post
    Add commanded EQ ratio to what you're logging and then use EQ Ratio Error instead of AFR Error and it should work (if you aren't already using EQ Ratio error, I didn't look at your config).

    Basically AFR error needs commanded AFR and wideband AFR. You have commanded AFR but no wideband AFR, so that one doesn't work. Then there's EQ Ratio error which needs commanded EQ ratio and wideband lambda. You have wideband lambda but no commanded EQ.

    So.. try adding commanded EQ to your list of channels and I think it'll work then
    I added EQ Ratio, but still dont work.
    2010 Camaro LS3 (E38 ECU - Spark only). MS3X running complete RTT fuel control (wideband).
    Whipple 2.9L, 3.875" Pulley, kit injectors, supplied MSD Boost-A-Pump, stock pump
    LG Motorsports 1 7/8" Headers - No Cats, stock mid pipe with JBA Axle Back
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    Post a log with that one added, I'll take a look in the morning and see what I can figure out
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    I went back and updated the graphs to EQ Ratio instead of AFR Err and it works... so thanks you fixed it
    2010 Camaro LS3 (E38 ECU - Spark only). MS3X running complete RTT fuel control (wideband).
    Whipple 2.9L, 3.875" Pulley, kit injectors, supplied MSD Boost-A-Pump, stock pump
    LG Motorsports 1 7/8" Headers - No Cats, stock mid pipe with JBA Axle Back
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    Good deal, I was hoping that would fix it