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    E78 Virtual VE scale - What does MAP / Baro (pressure ratio) mean?

    E78 ECU, tuning a Cruze 1.4T. This unknown scale ranges from 0.30 to 1.66 and it is labeled "MAP / Baro (Pressure Ratio)"

    What is this actually measure? Parameter?
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    exactly what you typed....its the offset ratio between the map and barometric pressure sensor.
    last i remember it was still a custom pid you had to make
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobaltssoverbooster View Post
    exactly what you typed....its the offset ratio between the map and barometric pressure sensor.
    last i remember it was still a custom pid you had to make
    Here is a quick acid test I did in excel, makes sense:


    Thank you again cobaltoverbooster!
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    PRatio is a built in math in VCM Scanner 3.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith@HPTuners View Post
    PRatio is a built in math in VCM Scanner 3.0
    sweet its been added in...that helps a ton.
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    I tried some built in pressure ratio parameter initially trying to setup a VE table to log. I just tried it using a custom math function, i can see this output by building a gauge for it, it works.

    The problem now (and possibly before) is it wont log data points along the pressure scale see below:


    here is the setup for this graph table:
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    I'm not sure when you would want to create your own pressure ratio math, when one is already built in. Try the built in one first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith@HPTuners View Post
    I'm not sure when you would want to create your own pressure ratio math, when one is already built in. Try the built in one first.
    I tried it first and it didn't seem to work, so then I created the first post here. I can for sure try it again with the built-in one to be certain!
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    I found two possible Pressure Ratios I am looking for under Engine > Air Flow > Volumetric Efficiency:




    But these two are not outputting any data from these parameters:

    Where PRatio Math is the one I created using (MAP divided by Baro)




    I can't find these Pressure Ratios under the Add Channel, so these can't be added to the Channels List
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    If you assumed MAP = 100kPa, then PRatio = value x MAP (100). So pretty safe to assume that a value of 0.25 PRatio is ~ 25kPa. Not always true if you're referencing the base MAP as some other value than 100 kPa, but it's a good way to roughly estimate what each label means.
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