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    Dodge Ram Stalling Out.

    Im currently working on this truck, the engine is a 5.7 hemi with a crane 216 cam (specs are: 216/222 .550/.550 112lsa). No matter what the speed is once you let off the throttle the truck stalls out, this dodge software is something else. Not the same as a chevy lol. Will anyone guide me on what to change in the tune to keep this vehicle running? Thanks, below is the attached tune.

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    can you post your stock file to compare with? It will make it easier to pinpoint changes.
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    Yes, I will post it once I get home since I don't have the computer with me at work.

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    Above is the stock file. If anybody has any idea on how to get these dodges to idle nice please let me know. I would like to know.

    Thanks.

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    Does it idle ok if you don't touch the throttle? Do you have a log of the stalling condition? Right away I can say you need to raise your Airflow>Electronic Throttle>Desired Airflow Min and I would add some timing to your Spark>Advance>Minimum Spark>Min Spark table in the idle areas. The PCM is going to use a combo of the PT Base timing table and the Min Spark table. The Min Spark Table has a lot of negative values in the stock tune, which should be mostly brought to zero in the idle area.

    A log though would help a lot to see what it is actually doing just prior to the stall.

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    If you look at the first post, I posted the file I made the changes too and it still stalls out. I will make the changes to the Desired at flow min to see if that helps.

    Thanks!

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    I compared the stock vs modified tune and saw the min airflow and min timing tables were untouched, that's why I made that recommendation. I found the sweet spot in park/neutral with the timing where too little would result in a stall after a rev or let off of the throttle and too much timing and it would hunt for an idle. Seemed like around 14-16* actual advance. You can get there many ways, either raise your PT timing table and leave Min alone, or leave PT alone and bring up the Min a little, it looks at both, so changing either will effect the actual spark it puts out.

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    As I mentioned a log, not the tune itself, would be helpful to see what it's doing.

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    I understand what you are saying, I will change that up and log the vehicle see if it acts up again or not. I have logs but not with me at the moment. I will post one as soon as I get home to my computer. So 14-16* advance should make it stay running after a rev or let off the throttle?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0G3R View Post
    I understand what you are saying, I will change that up and log the vehicle see if it acts up again or not. I have logs but not with me at the moment. I will post one as soon as I get home to my computer. So 14-16* advance should make it stay running after a rev or let off the throttle?

    Thanks in advance.
    It will contribute, but might not be the only issue. I have a similar issue on my car, though with a much bigger cam, where it wants to die in gear after touching the throttle. Used to do it in park/neutral as well, the timing changes eliminated it there.

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    I messed with the timing and it helped it once at operating temperatures. However, on a cold start it is still going into negative timing, does anybody have a idea on what table to modify to keep it at lets say 16* idle at a stop? Thanks.