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    This will help make sense of the Mapped Points on the newer Fords...



    This video shows the weighting factors in action. You can see what percentage of each table is contributing. At idle its running soley off the Mapped Point 0 tables. So 100% of the spark is pulling from that table. The torque calculation values are being pulled from Mapped Point 0 as well.

    As the RPM comes up, you can see that a combination of different tables are being used to determine the actual spark, torque, and speed density values.
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    Awesome! Looks incredibly valuable.

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    That's cool to see it in action! Thanks Eric!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners View Post


    This video shows the weighting factors in action. You can see what percentage of each table is contributing. At idle its running soley off the Mapped Point 0 tables. So 100% of the spark is pulling from that table. The torque calculation values are being pulled from Mapped Point 0 as well.

    As the RPM comes up, you can see that a combination of different tables are being used to determine the actual spark, torque, and speed density values.

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    freakin awesome!
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    Oh yeah!

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    thanks for the visual. sounds nasty btw
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    Nice!!! Looks like it's scanning fairly fast as well! I've not got to play with anymore Coyote's since the 2.25 scanner was released.
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    I'm trying to learn how to use the scanner. Is there some secret mojo needed to get the mapped points to read?

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    Quote Originally Posted by txcharlie View Post
    I'm trying to learn how to use the scanner. Is there some secret mojo needed to get the mapped points to read?
    These parameters are DMR, which means we request it based on memory address. In EVERY operating system, the addresses are different. I have DMRs in only a couple of the OS' currently. I will be rolling it out over the next several days.
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    More scanner teasing...

    CopperheadDMR.JPG
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    WOW! Ford is becoming a first-class citizen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners View Post
    More scanner teasing...

    CopperheadDMR.JPG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners View Post
    These parameters are DMR, which means we request it based on memory address. In EVERY operating system, the addresses are different. I have DMRs in only a couple of the OS' currently. I will be rolling it out over the next several days.
    Sounds like a lot of work! Thanks for making it happen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by txcharlie View Post
    Sounds like a lot of work! Thanks for making it happen!
    Lastest 2.25 has DMRs for FSFR0. Please test it and report back.
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    Eric,what's the logic behind using mapped points vs the way they did VCT with Spanish Oak?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown383 View Post
    Eric,what's the logic behind using mapped points vs the way they did VCT with Spanish Oak?
    With a single cam doing VCT, the intake and exhaust valve events move together, so mapping in the software is straight forward.

    Since the intake and exhaust cams on the newer Fords are controlled independently of each other, a way to model the infinite number of cam position combos is needed, and this is the way Ford decided to handle it.
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    It'll be nice to figure this one out properly. I have been into a boosted 6 that uses the same lay out for timing tables. I have changed every MAP Point from 55 up to give timing we want in PE and then blended back to existing timing in each table. For now its working just fine, but this would make things not so "sketchy" for sure!
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    That's a huge help, Eric. Thanks...
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    Eric,

    Have the Mapped Points been added to OS # KTCP4CZ? 2012 F150 5.0L ECU.

    I can't seem to find them in the Scanner Channel List?

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