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    Logging KR with scanner 2.25

    Is the KR pid working ? just want to make sure the PID is working as it should, i'm seeing -2-4* KR at WOT in 3rd gear test runs.
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    I havent tested yet. I will verify soon.
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    Thanks a lot Eric.

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    Any updates Eric ? Thanks one more time.

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    Simple fix, and error on my part. New build is compiling now. Update in 30 mins and it will read proper.
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    Awesome dude, i'll download the new version now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoat06 View Post
    Awesome dude, i'll download the new version now.
    Let me know if my "fix" actually worked. Should have.
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    Yep it seems better, how do I interpret the +1* kr vs a -1* kr? What's possitive vs negative kr?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoat06 View Post
    Yep it seems better, how do I interpret the +1* kr vs a -1* kr? What's possitive vs negative kr?
    The knock control system has the ability to add timing in the absence of knock.

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    Do I add timing to the borderline op table if I see + kr or do I let the system add what it needs? What table controls how much timing gets added when no knock is detected?

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    Positive = knock
    Negative = no knock, and its adding

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    + values are showing the knock is being detected. Negative values show that timing is being added based on lack of knock sensor activity. The tables are in the spark/retard tab and the tables that control added timing values (shown as - numbers in the log) are the tables that have advance in the name/description, IE Knock advance limit, knock fast advance rate..etc.
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    Holy cow, it will take me a little while to adapt, my mind is set to see - numbers as actual KR thanks to GM

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    These are such exciting times! We just started a new round of mods on our Procharged coyote, the scanner is going to make squeezing 9's outta this full weight car a breeze! Oh yeah, so happy to finally see a functioning KR pid!

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    I've made timing changes in my tune and i'll give them a try next, thanks a lot for the help fellas.
    I made a change yesterday, and tested this morning, no KR , so I've bumped the timing 3* or so with respect of my last change, will see how it goes.
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    How does IAT spark affect timing, the base table calls for -50* at 150F ? , I guess it uses the IAT mult in conjuction with the IAT base table to decrease timing ?

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    How do I get this PID

    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoat06 View Post
    Is the KR pid working ? just want to make sure the PID is working as it should, i'm seeing -2-4* KR at WOT in 3rd gear test runs.
    I just got 2.24 last month, can only log Knock Sensor voltage, and have no clue how it relates to actual +/- timing degrees the knock sensor is messing with. What do I have to do so I can see actual KR in degrees on my 2005 Mustang GT like I'm reading here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegoat06 View Post
    How does IAT spark affect timing, the base table calls for -50* at 150F ? , I guess it uses the IAT mult in conjuction with the IAT base table to decrease timing ?
    Correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by joepeek View Post
    I just got 2.24 last month, can only log Knock Sensor voltage, and have no clue how it relates to actual +/- timing degrees the knock sensor is messing with. What do I have to do so I can see actual KR in degrees on my 2005 Mustang GT like I'm reading here?
    You will need to contact support via email to get the newest beta release, 2.25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners View Post
    Correct
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