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    Gen3 tables for TBSS injectors needed 12580681

    Hey guys, I need some help getting a friends TBSS 6.0 up and running with a Gen 3 pcm. I need the injector data for a gen 3 computer. He converted to a mechanical throttle body as well but I think I have that covered. Thanks.
    -Brandon
    70 Chevelle, 4L80e, 2900 stall, 02 LQ4 short block, LS3 heads/intake/injectors, Patriot extreme springs, EPS 222/230 on 112, Edelbrock 90mm TB, 85mm maf, Walbro 255

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    Does this look right for short pulse adder?
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    Anyone?
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    I hope I'm correct. Find out tomorrow I guess.
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    Fought a junk brand new throttle body from procomp performance or something like that. Throttle blade was so out of round I could not get the thing to idle lower than 800rpm and the throttle kept getting stuck. A couple springs later we were able to do a little driving but my VE table is way off. I have to convert the gen 4 ve table to gen 3. Is there a way to do that or is it just a unit change? I'd still like someone to verify my injector settings to make sure I did the conversion correctly.

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    Sean TBSS Gen3-2.hpt



    This is the throttle body, garbage.
    http://store.speedmaster79.com/p-472...ody-black.aspx
    Last edited by Dirthead Racing; 01-12-2015 at 11:15 AM.
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    It's a stock engine, I just need to get the gen 4 tables converted to gen 3. How do I convert the VE table? Is there a conversion? I did a linear interpolation to convert the maf from 4 to 3 and the short pulse adder for the injectors because the table headers didn't match but those were in the same units at least. I'm not sure what to do with the VE tables.
    Conversion ratio.jpg
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    Thanks! If I'm that far off on that table I wonder how far off I am on the rest. I better start from scratch and look at it all again! Still unsure on how to convert the VE table though. Is this something I should be using bluecats software for?
    70 Chevelle, 4L80e, 2900 stall, 02 LQ4 short block, LS3 heads/intake/injectors, Patriot extreme springs, EPS 222/230 on 112, Edelbrock 90mm TB, 85mm maf, Walbro 255

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    Using bluecats software I loaded in the VE table in LS2 format from a stock TBSS file, converted to eq, then converted back to ve(not sure if necessary), then changed the format to ls1 style (ve%) This is what it kicked out. I'm going to compare it to a TBSS table in bluecats software.

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    Current file, he has a new TB on the way. Hope to get moving on it one it comes in. Here is the file I'm going to start with. Thoughts, comments, tips? I'm doing all work pro-bono so I'm not looking to profit from others knowledge.
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    Anyone have a chance to look through that file and see if I have anything way off?
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    PE delay is 60 seconds? Other wise looks good to me.
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    Good catch!
    70 Chevelle, 4L80e, 2900 stall, 02 LQ4 short block, LS3 heads/intake/injectors, Patriot extreme springs, EPS 222/230 on 112, Edelbrock 90mm TB, 85mm maf, Walbro 255