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    Excited to get home and check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith@HPTuners View Post
    The beta installs side by side next to VCM Suite 2.25. They do not overlap.
    Keith, I am speaking of the 2.24.860 release I am using now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS3RX7 View Post
    When I log in to download this, I see that 2.24 is the latest suite to download. How do I go about downloading this Beta version to check it out?
    email support.

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    I will download the beta soon, but based on the first post, and comments this does not have custom axis support. That is one thing I enjoy about the BlueCat tool. I have the RPM on the x-axis, MAP on y-axis, and I have them setup to only cover the area that my engine operates with a little extra on either side for safety. For me that is 15-150kPa and 0-6400 RPM. This feature would be appreciated. Thanks for adding this! Look forward to using it.

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    The VVE table on my E37 (2008 2.2L Pontiac) is not visible yet.
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    Post your file.
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    This file was created with 2.24, should that matter? Do I need to read the car with 2.25?
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    Shows up for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith@HPTuners View Post
    Shows up for me.
    I may have done a stupid. Haha thanks. It's there. I'll say it looks fantastic and cannot wait until it is edit-able. Especially once it goes out to 7000+rpm for those of us who have higher spinning engines.
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    Ok, my stupid episode of the week....the Beta version actually annotates the VCM Suite file with the word (Beta), differentiating it from the 2.24 public release at least. If your running the beta then I might see a problem going back.

    Thanks for not flaming :-)

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    This is really awesome!

    I'll download and install this tomorrow and post my feedback.

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    I'd like to add that my VE table looks odd, especially at 2600-3000rpm. Not because HP Tuners but because GM. This explains my HUGE gap between MAF airflow vs the stock VVE airflow. As high as 0.70 lb/min in places! But being able to make changes in Bluecat and see them in the VE table is still very helpful. However, when I make low-end changes in bluecat it shows up as high rpm increases in the HPT table? Not sure what's going on there.
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    Could you please add the RPM and MAP zone boundary lines in the 3d and table charts similar to "the other software". Helps visualize the areas of attention a bit better for me.

    Thanks and are very excited about the final package :-)

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    So, is there a way I can help this process out at all? I read you guys need testing to verify the accuracy of the program. Comparing this table with the one generated by bluecat's tool is close. Has the same general shape. I'd love to be able to use this and tune my VE with it.
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    Looking forward to this release.
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    Got a chance to check this out and I am definitely loving it.

    I have no issue using the Blue Cat Tool but it can be tedious copying and pasting over all the table coefficients between programs.

    Having this function embedded into HP Tuners will make tuning cars with the equation based VE model a breeze.

    The only thing that I would ask for is if it is possible to be able change the units to Volumetric Efficiency (%) and not GMVE just as the Blue Cat Tool allows you to.

    Otherwise, this is so awesome!
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    I second the ability to change from GM VE to VE. Helps add an easy visual.

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    If HP Tuners can have this tool built in to allow for EQ ---> VE and VE ---> EQ calculations and allow us to view the "Virtual" VE surface in actual % VE and not GMVE, it would result in an outstanding tool.
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    id like to try this out, ive only messed with blue cat once.

    where do i download it from ?

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    e-mail support and request Beta 2.25 download link which they will post to your customer page.

    Ed M
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