do fords just take longer to flash?

[|V3nom|]

my truck takes over 4 minutes and my saturn takes 30 seconds...

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oh yeah this little thing pops up every time i flash as well wasting my time.

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[Exley]

I know that with my 4.6 it always does a Write Entire, where my friends GTO you can do a Write Calibration Only. Fords or the spanish oak computer must just not be able to take a flash this way.

I'm speculating here, but I think the key cycle is due to HP Tuners needing to catch the computer during boot up in order to be able to write to it. It could be designed like this by ford or it could be HP Tuners exploiting something in the boot up process.

[ElecTech]

The key cycle is unique to Ford because the ECU requires 18V to be applied to initiate the FLASH routine.

Also, Ford OS are not broken up into segments like GM's so you cant just pick and choose portions to write. Write times are very much dictated by the ECU architecture, not so much by the software.

[|V3nom|]

thanks for the clarification guys.

yeah mine does a write entire even though i select write calibration only.

[Eric@HPTuners]

thanks for the clarification guys.

yeah mine does a write entire even though i select write calibration only.

As stated above, its just the nature of how Ford handles things. The newer Ford PCMs do not require the key cycle, but they are still doing a full flash. Technically we probably could do a cal only flash, but then the checksum would not be correct.

[|V3nom|]

As stated above, its just the nature of how Ford handles things. The newer Ford PCMs do not require the key cycle, but they are still doing a full flash. Technically we probably could do a cal only flash, but then the checksum would not be correct.

thanks for the info.

[|V3nom|]

As stated above, its just the nature of how Ford handles things. The newer Ford PCMs do not require the key cycle, but they are still doing a full flash. Technically we probably could do a cal only flash, but then the checksum would not be correct.

will this also cause logging to be slow and glitchy? when i log its not a smooth continuous, it records in very short intervals. maybe a different problem?

[Eric@HPTuners]

will this also cause logging to be slow and glitchy? when i log its not a smooth continuous, it records in very short intervals. maybe a different problem?

Different issue. Generic and Mode 22 PIDs on a Ford just logs slow. When the new scanner is released, it will support a different method of logging which is extremely fast.

[|V3nom|]

how long until the new scanner is released then?! got me all excited now!

[|V3nom|]

is knock logging only going to be released with the new scanner?

[Bill@HPTuners]

is knock logging only going to be released with the new scanner?

Yes

[codename Bil Doe]

how long until the new scanner is released then?!

Did you just ask when the next rev will be out? Oh no you di'int!

[|V3nom|]

yeah yeah i know but i was hoping id get an answer.

they just tease me so much with all the new cool things the next version will do i just cant wait!

[Turbofox]

Different issue. Generic and Mode 22 PIDs on a Ford just logs slow. When the new scanner is released, it will support a different method of logging which is extremely fast.

Any update on this one Eric?

And on a side note. We tried the latest version of HP tuners software on my 06 F-150 and it loads 1 min faster
Down to 3:30 for a write now!

[Eric@HPTuners]

Any update on this one Eric?

And on a side note. We tried the latest version of HP tuners software on my 06 F-150 and it loads 1 min faster
Down to 3:30 for a write now!

New Scanner is in the works still.

[Turbofox]

New Scanner is in the works still.

Just seen the scanner thread, thanks Eric!! After 4.5 hours of tuning last night the new scanner will make life a lot easier haha