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    New with question on inj. and finding data?

    I don't think it should be hard but I cant find inj data for the 60lb short ev1 inj. I have a few charts and a graph but nothing that looks like it fits into the hp tuners software. so how do I change the inj without having access to the correct info. there are 3 tables that I have found on the site.
    im not doing this right now just researching for when I do I this winter. will be gas and turbo.

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    the only table I cant find is the inj offset table. looking allover the web. why don't the fuel inj mfg give this important data?

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    Injector Dynamics does and it's quite good. Plug and play into HPT.

    Those 60 pounders might be covered on the Banish DVD set.

    You might search this forum for your injector part number and perhaps someone has posted a tune with the correct data. It's somewhat risky.

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    You'll likely never get the correct data without paying for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PST View Post
    You'll likely never get the correct data without paying for it.
    Its not cheap to get the SAE data for injectors. Seems most injector companies are just too cheap to pay for it.
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    If nobody else confirms sooner, I'll check my Banish DVD to see if they are included in the spreadsheet. I can't provide the data, but I can at least tell you sets of injector data included on the DVD so you can make an educated decision on whether the buy the DVD. I just bought the DVD and I'm considering selling it because the injector data was useless to me and the video wasn't as helpful as I had hoped If I forget, feel free to send me a reminder.
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    Thanks guys. Man Ud think for how much inj run that they would always give the full data. Isint the main goal to have happy customers.

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    They are on the spreadsheet. I would suggest buying the DVD from Jim.

    You would think, but that's unfortunately not the case with most suppliers. Some out there will actually give you characterization data that fits the GM tables but works like shit, lol.

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    Is the banish inj data the best data?

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    It's damn good for the injectors he has on it. Other than that, injector dynamics.

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    I do not know if it is the best data, but here are the sets of injector data on DVD1. They are grouped if they have multiple part numbers defined.

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    FRPP M-9593-A302 24#
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    FRPP M-9593-AA302 28#@3Bar
    Bosch 280 155 931
    GM 12561462
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    FRPP M-9593-LU24A 12#@3Bar
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    FRPP M-9593-B302 30#
    Bosch red top (EV1, "fat" body)
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    FRPP M-9593-BB302 30#
    Bosch red body (EV6, "skinny" body)
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    FRPP M-9593-MU32 32#@2.7Bar
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    FRPP M-9593-LU34A 34#@2.7Bar
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    FRPP M-9593-m39 42#@3Bar
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    FRPP M-9593-f302 42#@3Bar
    Bosch green top
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    FRPP M-9593-G302 47#@3Bar
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    FRPP M-9593-LU47 47#@3Bar
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    FRPP M-9593-LU60 60#@3Bar
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    Siemens FI114962 61#@3Bar
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    FRPP M-9593-LU80 80#@3Bar
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    The fl 114 92 is what I have I do believe

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    It's almost like somebody made a spreadsheet to convert Ford format to GM... And publicly shared it.

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    Nope

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    I was told by many members that have put a ton of time into the knowledge acquired to purchase the DVD's, Books etc. I have spent roughly $1000 on all of the material that has all of the well kept secrets in them and will not just give it away. I respect all of the members on this and other forums for what they do and have needed help many times which a lot are willing to guide which is what I hope to be able to do in the future as well.

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    And I SUCK at building spreadsheets!

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    You missed Daves referance. He put together a spreadsheet and shared it. Allows you to put the readily available ford data in and spits out gm data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrperformance View Post
    Nope
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrperformance View Post
    I was told by many members that have put a ton of time into the knowledge acquired to purchase the DVD's, Books etc. I have spent roughly $1000 on all of the material that has all of the well kept secrets in them and will not just give it away. I respect all of the members on this and other forums for what they do and have needed help many times which a lot are willing to guide which is what I hope to be able to do in the future as well.
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    And I SUCK at building spreadsheets!
    Well, lucky for people here, I am good with spread sheets and know how all of the data relates to the raw characterization curves. I already did the legwork and shared this publicly.

    Personally, I find no value in any of the available tuning guides. Then again, I come from the powertrain engineering department of one of the Big 3 and have known generally how control systems work.

    http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...on-spreadsheet

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    oh man I am sorry. Well I will go away and be quite. Sorry again.

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