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    2011-2014 Mustang Support Coming!

    A lot of you have been asking if/when we would have support for the new Mustang.

    This is the official thread on the topic. It is being worked on, and I hope to enable reading very early into the new year.

    Stay tuned for updates.

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    Love it.

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    Thank you!

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    Can't wait!

    Just picked up a '14 auto after selling my '11 manual.

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    Awesome! Thanks, Eric

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    Greatest car-related news I've heard in a while

    Will this support all models, incl. the GT500?

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    Quote Originally Posted by executiV View Post
    Greatest car-related news I've heard in a while

    Will this support all models, incl. the GT500?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45T-XR View Post
    Yeah, drink lots of coffee. The 2011+ tuning is quite complex.

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    Very interested in learning them!!

    I do love that they have built in widebands as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LSxpwrdZ View Post
    Very interested in learning them!!

    I do love that they have built in widebands as well!
    Yes, in some ways tuning them is easier than the earlier models, especially WOT fueling, as it is in closed loop. The 4D tables are the biggest thing to get your head around.

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    I think Ford has 1 Lambda = 14.1 AFR for 100% gasoline. I'm not sure how the PIDs and etc will work out for the scanner, but will it reflect this out of the box or will we need to do some tinkering? An option to read AFR or Lamda would be awesome as well.

    Also, the coyote is prone to cylinder 8 issues, will there be a way to run one cylinder richer than others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onspeed View Post
    I think Ford has 1 Lambda = 14.1 AFR for 100% gasoline. I'm not sure how the PIDs and etc will work out for the scanner, but will it reflect this out of the box or will we need to do some tinkering? An option to read AFR or Lamda would be awesome as well.

    Also, the coyote is prone to cylinder 8 issues, will there be a way to run one cylinder richer than others?
    It's in lambda, so you won't need to do anything. Just set the stoich value correctly in the editor, and tune it based on the fuel trims. Whatever you command in the WOT fueling table you will get even if the tune is off a bit because the PCM will make fueling corrections at WOT to hit the target.

    There are fuel and spark adjustments per cylinder as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by executiV View Post
    Greatest car-related news I've heard in a while

    Will this support all models, incl. the GT500?
    Agree! Wow, that is outstanding. I absolutely hate SCT but it's pretty much the only choice for my 13 Mustang GT

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners View Post
    Yeah, drink lots of coffee. The 2011+ tuning is quite complex.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners View Post
    Yes, in some ways tuning them is easier than the earlier models, especially WOT fueling, as it is in closed loop. The 4D tables are the biggest thing to get your head around.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners View Post
    It's in lambda, so you won't need to do anything. Just set the stoich value correctly in the editor, and tune it based on the fuel trims. Whatever you command in the WOT fueling table you will get even if the tune is off a bit because the PCM will make fueling corrections at WOT to hit the target.

    There are fuel and spark adjustments per cylinder as well.
    Ya, the copperhead ECU is very complicated and advanced with its 32 timing maps and variable cam timing amongst a host of other things.

    Do you guys have any teaser info you can post? How much access will the end user to all the different tables etc?
    Coming from the E38 was a big shock when tuning 2 timing maps versus the copperhead's 32. lol
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    I plan to post how to info when I am closer to release. It will be very complete.

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    Outstanding. Does the reading of the ecu go hand in hand with the ability to tune it? Or is that just phase 1 - cracking the code?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinjor View Post
    Outstanding. Does the reading of the ecu go hand in hand with the ability to tune it? Or is that just phase 1 - cracking the code?
    Being able to read it is our first hurdle, and we have already done that. The next step is when the reading is enabled for everyone so you all can send me reads in, so I have a copy of each OS ID, and can do the definitions for each. I have been working on definitions for a couple of weeks now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners View Post
    Being able to read it is our first hurdle, and we have already done that. The next step is when the reading is enabled for everyone so you all can send me reads in, so I have a copy of each OS ID, and can do the definitions for each. I have been working on definitions for a couple of weeks now.
    I have strategy code BLV3 (2013 Mustang GT, manual trans) if you need it. What hardware do you need to do the read? I sold my HPT hardware when I sold the corvette so it looks like I'll be purchasing a new suite once this is up and running. Currently, 'amateur' tuners do not have full access to the computers and are only given "calibrator" level access which keeps some of the code hidden. Only a handful of tuners are given full access but then you're forced to use their tune. I prefer to have my own tune in my car and not rely on someone else so I'm forced to settle for the basics. Do you know if you'll be able to grant unrestricted access to the community or will we still be throttled? What about stuff like the clutch protection strategy that is hardcoded into the computer and is not removeable via tuning--do you know if you'll be able to turn that off with HPT?
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    You will need an HPT interface to do the read, once we enable it. The software will have full access to everything that is required to tune the cars properly. There are thousands of parameters within the PCM, some of which would never need to be changed. So I intend to only add in what is needed. If someone needs access to something not in the software, I will add it. Clutch Protection will be there.