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    Roger,
    I'll just keep firing them through in the interim. Do you happen to have a list of parameters you are planning to add/amend so we can avoid hassling you on items already in your workflow?

    cheers
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    Eric,
    Can you please also add to you list the scalar for P0237 and P0238. (turbo sensor low/hi) We need to be able to adjust the calibration of this sensor in high boost cars to prevent overboost trq management issues.

    We are currently forced to run open loop boost control to avoid this which can lead to overboost issues in higher gears.
    these are already there, Engine -> Diagnostics, Airflow, Boost Sensor. They are for P0236/7/8. They might be missing from some cals.
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    Eric im working on a 2007 gt500 with a 4.2LC kenne bell, and wish to datalog in high speed and the ford pids how are you going up with the datalog stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by witchertorque View Post
    Eric im working on a 2007 gt500 with a 4.2LC kenne bell, and wish to datalog in high speed and the ford pids how are you going up with the datalog stuff
    I am working on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caniggia View Post
    Ford Idle air multi

    Is wrong in some calibrations, in some it's fixed.

    Wrong I found:
    FPAF0A3
    FBLF152
    This appeared to be isolated to only the V6 and GT Mustangs, that use a 7 x 6 table. This has been resolved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiddeous View Post
    Roger,
    I'll just keep firing them through in the interim. Do you happen to have a list of parameters you are planning to add/amend so we can avoid hassling you on items already in your workflow?

    cheers
    Luke
    1. tq calculation-tq table-
    2. Solenoid transfer function-solenoid 5 temperature compensation table
    3. Max RPM in drive with no vss must be moving table
    4. Cam angle volts
    5. tmap calibration table
    6. spark tip in/out & global KS gain table
    7. IPC pedal count for throttle angle

    Those appear to be the ones we've had requested.
    It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...

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    Bill I thought I could already recall spark tip in/out being there already?

    By TMAP calibration table to you mean we can run a true 3bar and higher TMAP sensor?....giggity! From memory the stock one is only good for 2.5bar so that will be good for when 23psi isn't enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill@HPTuners View Post
    1. tq calculation-tq table-
    2. Solenoid transfer function-solenoid 5 temperature compensation table
    3. Max RPM in drive with no vss must be moving table
    4. Cam angle volts (Cam angle offset? for Dual VCT Aus fords?)
    5. tmap calibration tablePllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!
    6. spark tip in/out & global KS gain table(YEEES!!)
    7. IPC pedal count for throttle angle

    Those appear to be the ones we've had requested.
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    #4 who knows...it was just something one of our customers requested, they had no info to offer, just wanted to know if there was such a table in fords(we get alot of these types of requests).
    It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...

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    I think its mainly the offset for VCT that we need bill. SCT can control the cams individually, from memory it was BA mkll onwards that had it in the factory pcm

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    BA MK11 FPV's onwards had dual VCT.

    Hold onto your keyboard Eric.......

    Here's a list compiled by comparing parameters mapped and used in SCT to HPT

    Spark
    • Dwell Time As Function of Battery Volts
    • Dwell Time As Function of Battery Volts & Coil Temp
    • Spark Retard to Torque Ratio for Idle
    • Torque Ratio to Spark Retard for Idle
    • Max Spk Retard for Tip In Based on RPM
    • Tip In Boarderline Modifier Slope ECT
    • Tip in Spark Retard Table for Change in AM

    Torque Calculation
    • A/F Ratio As Function of Torque Ratio
    • Spark Retard to Torque Ratio
    • Torque Modifier as Function of A?F Ratio
    • Torque Ratio to Spark Retard
    • Torque Table Friction
    • Max Allowed Torque Before Stall Truncation Forward
    • Max Engine RPM for Tip In Tq Control
    • Min Engine RPM for Tip In Tq Control
    Rev-Speed Limiter
    • RPM Limit for TCM Based on VS
    • Torque Limit for TCM based on RPM
    O2 Sensor
    • Front O2 Heater Duty Cycle
    Knock Sensor/s
    • Knock Sensor Gain (not per cylinder) - BA only.
    Fuel / Fuel Injector
    • Base Fuel Table Enrichment Lost Load
    • A/F Multiplier to Avoid Stalls
    • Intake Valve Opening Degrees
    • Time for Fuel to travel to Valve
    Turbocharger
    • P1227 Filter Constant
    • P1227 Level
    • Wastegate Boost FMEM
    • Boost Integral Gain Clip
    Variable Cam
    • Variable Cam Angle Max Retard Limit
    • Variable Cam Angle Max Retard Limit Overlap (BF)
    Speed Density
    • Correction for MAP Slope Vs Aircharge
    Alternator
    • Voltage for idle
    • Voltage Setpoint

    If you could go ahead and have those added by lunch time today Perth Western Australian time that would be great
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    But is all that necessary? Just because it's there, doesn't mean that it is really essential. I don't tune Aussie Fords, so I don't know, but it would probably be better if you make suggestions of items that are actually hindering you, not a one-for-one comparison from another software company.

    Just my opinion.
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    Yes. 90% is required. I have reworded my post. Theses are Parameters mapped and commonly used when tuning Aus 6cyl SD fords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiddeous View Post
    Yes. 90% is required. I have reworded my post. Theses are Parameters mapped and commonly used when tuning Aus 6cyl SD fords.
    Ok. That's cool. Just that sometimes enthusiasm can override need and some people have a hard time "editing" themselves. Eric's going to look like a Mole Man after you Aussies get done with him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElecTech View Post
    Ok. That's cool. Just that sometimes enthusiasm can override need and some people have a hard time "editing" themselves. Eric's going to look like a Mole Man after you Aussies get done with him!
    absolutely, alot of the time when it comes to tuning simplifying things is better for everyone otherwise when you have 10 tables that do the exact same thing it just confuses people. So we try to add only the tables that are necessary otherwise you'd have a bunch of stuff that is useless.
    It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill@HPTuners View Post
    absolutely, alot of the time when it comes to tuning simplifying things is better for everyone otherwise when you have 10 tables that do the exact same thing it just confuses people. So we try to add only the tables that are necessary otherwise you'd have a bunch of stuff that is useless.
    Exactly. While it is nice to say you have every table defined in the software, there is so much stuff that never gets changed. I am using my experience as a tuner to decide what does and does not go into the software along with what customers are requesting.
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    Good to see some real progress being made Eric!!! Im about to do a basic pulley and intake tune on a 2006 Saleen. Ill let you know if I see anything missing.

    Also, I just had a guy ask me about fords flex fuel strategy and whether it was like GM's were it could be "turned on" with compatable ECM's.. Feel like checking into that Eric? Does anyone know if Fords actually use an ethanol content sensor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire67 View Post
    Good to see some real progress being made Eric!!! Im about to do a basic pulley and intake tune on a 2006 Saleen. Ill let you know if I see anything missing.

    Also, I just had a guy ask me about fords flex fuel strategy and whether it was like GM's were it could be "turned on" with compatable ECM's.. Feel like checking into that Eric? Does anyone know if Fords actually use an ethanol content sensor?
    I am unsure on the newest Fords, but the ones I had experience with in the past did not have a sensor, and instead use a inferred model to determine if it is running E85 or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric@HPTuners View Post
    Exactly. I am using my experience as a tuner to decide
    Eric,
    Please don't take this as a shot at you (as it most certainly is not and is purely a question for interest sake) How much experience do you have with AUS Ford Pcm Tuning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiddeous View Post
    Eric,
    Please don't take this as a shot at you (as it most certainly is not and is purely a question for interest sake) How much experience do you have with AUS Ford Pcm Tuning?
    I can't speak for Eric, but I think his response was more of a general response to me and Bill, not so much about your request. I would hope that he would contact you to confirm your need before just throwing it out.
    Jaime