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    Here is some info by Shifted
    Preparation
    There are a number of steps you need to do to prepare for this. These must be done for the tuning to work accurately.

    1. Turn off Closed Loop operation
    a) To do this, open your current calibration file in the HPT Editor.
    b) Go to Engine>Fuel Control>Open & Closed Loop
    c) Open the ECT vs Startup ECT table
    d) Set all the cells to 255
    2. Set the target AFR
    a) Go to Engine>Fuel Control>Power Enrich
    b) Click on the Base AFR vs ECT
    c) Set your desired AFR at each particular ECT.
    d) Open the Mult vs RPM and set the multiplier for each RPM to hit the target AFR in that RPM cell
    3) Turn off any injector pulsewidth modifications
    a) Go to Engine>Fuel Control>General Fuel
    b) Click on the IPW Multiplier vs RPM table
    c) Set the entire table to 1.0
    4) Make sure your injector constant is correct and working as desired
    5) Save this file as VETuningCLDisabled.hpt (or whatever you want, just don't overwrite your working tune).
    6) Go flash this file on to your car.

    Logging

    MAKE SURE your laptop is charged up, or that you are going to be doing blackbox logging, that you have the correct setup flashed on the cable. Sucks to go out and grab 40 minutes of data only to realize you forgot to add the wideband PID.

    In the VCM Scanner, you need to be logging, at a minimum:
    - Engine RPM
    - Manifold Vacuum (if VE tuning a true 2 bar setup)
    - TPS (if VE tuning a 1 bar or fake 2/3 bar setup)
    - Wideband AFR
    - Air Fuel Ratio Error (this is one of the important ones)
    - Air Fuel Ratio Commanded (Lo Res)

    ***WARNING***
    THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN BLOW UP YOUR CAR. If you are running untuned and without added fuel, especially in boosted applications, you can go lean and blow up your motor. If you fear this, you need to richen up your car before you start. Simply reduce the VE percentage in each of the cells until you are running pig rich. Then go ahead with tuning.

    Now that you've disabled closed loop and flashed that file, go out and do some logging. Make sure to hit as many RPM/TPS points or RPM/MAP points as possible, and as many times as possible. If you are tuning the High RPM VE table, then cruising really doesn't matter, and neither does decelleration, but do your best to hit what you can. If you are tuning the Low RPM VE table, you want to spend as much time as you can at low throttle cruising situations. This will definately help with your gas mileage, but most of us do the High RPM VE tables first, its your call.

    After you've got a good set of data, you're ready to move on to the next step:

    Analyzing the Data

    Remember those histograms you got way up at the top? Time to break them out.

    1. Load up the VCM Scanner with your most recent data log.
    2. Click Displays>Histograms.
    3. Click on the Open Folder icon on the top left corner of the screen
    4. Select the proper histogram to use.
    5. Right click inside the histogram, click "Load All Data"

    You now have a histogram that shows the AFR error throughout the RPM range, in a table that looks EXACTLY like the VE table that you are tuning. Time for the next step...

    Tuning the VE

    Now, this is the fun part...

    Make sure you have the histogram open, and have the VCM Editor open with your current calibration, and the VE table that you are tuning open.

    In the VCM Scanner
    1. Select all the cells in the histogram, click in the first cell and drag all the way to the bottom right corner of the table.
    2. Right Click, select Copy

    In the VCM Editor
    1. Select all the cells in the VE table, click in the first cell and drag all the way to the bottom right corner of the table.
    2. Right click, Paste Special> Add

    And thats it! You may want to repeat this process a number of times to get the VE just right, but its about that simple.

    After-thought on VE Smoothing
    Having a smooth VE table (no peaks or sudden transisitions), is important to have an even fueling. After you get done VE tuning, make sure to smooth your VE tables one or two times, and smooth out any peaks or valleys that you have. This is important in getting your car running smooth and consistant.

    After you are done
    When you are done, make sure you turn the closed loop fuel back on.



    Here is one of my configs but its for AEM, I dont have one for Dynojet
    http://www.hptuners.com/forum/attach...2&d=1348000076

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    I need help with the wideband

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    I dnt know how to configure my wideband so it works with the scanner

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    I think I'm gonna save that post lol
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    can somebody help me with the wideband setup

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    Thank you all for your help i am appreciative. Tomorrow i will try to tune my car hopefully it goes well i still kinda learning the histograms im kinda unsure if im doing it right.

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    Here is my first log with wideband on stock tune besides rpm's.

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    I am having problems with setting up histograms

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    Did you use that config I posted?
    Did you follow the info I posted
    Looks way LEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I have not, i have been trying to figure out the histograms it does not seem like the data im loading in is correct. The tune i have on the car is gm's stock parameters besides what i have done to the rpm's. First i need that done before i can follow the process u posted. I just cant seem to figure it out

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    Sorry i didn't see the configure u posted at the bottom i will take a look at it.

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    It didn't let me look at your configure post

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    Save that file and go into scanner and load it as your config.

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    It doesnt let me look at your attachment. Can u upload it again

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    This should do it
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    it wont let me view it with adobe

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    can u upload a log file maybe that will work

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    U open it with VCM scanner
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    Thank you so much how does this look?