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    I follow the prompts and click the copy icon, lol - not sure what else I could be doing wrong as it's pretty simple in nature..
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    Uninstall/reinstall - all appears to be working, thanks!

    I'm loving this so far, fantastic work Bluecat.
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    Is it possible to add in support for variable exhaust cam tables as well?

    Also in the e78, it seems to use MAP/BARO=PRatio instead of MAP

    I've currently got a bad stumble through what seems to be cell 23

    In this log at 2:14, 2:18, 3:08, 4:01, 11:12, 12:28, 12:49, 12:53, 14:09, 14:55, 15:02, etc ---> dec10-tune9-4.hplnick-sonic-knockMon.cfg

    The configuration file that I am using is also attached. By looking at the Calculated Cylinder Air in graph 2(blue line) compared to the computer's PID for Cylinder Air in graph 2(red line) you can see a clear deviation of the computer's PID from the calculated value. On the instances where my AFR didn't go too lean, I noticed that after I get the PID to start being close to the calculated value, the car no longer stumbles and it runs perfect.
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    I'm working on it. I already added the PRatio part, working on the rest. If things slow up enough I may have it finished by the first of the year.

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    I have been able to work with everything in this program, but I can not get any of your included generic starting ve tables to open. What am I missing?

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    Not sure, it should just work. Open the program, go to the ve table window, click open, select samples folder, select the file you want, click open.

    What does it do or at what point does it stop? Your not trying to load a ve table from the eq window are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat View Post
    Not sure, it should just work. Open the program, go to the ve table window, click open, select samples folder, select the file you want, click open.

    What does it do or at what point does it stop? Your not trying to load a ve table from the eq window are you?
    It stops when I click to open the BEQ (OEM) LS2 file. I wants me to find something to open it. I am a MAC guy first but I can use window. I'm thinking the samples folder is probably in the wrong place.

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    Okay, I got it sorted out this morning. Basically what I was doing is opening the "VE TABLE" window, then selecting the LS2 2.5 bar format and then going outside the program to open the sample folder because I didn't see any way to open it in the program. With my small laptop display the right side of of the 2.5 bar table was off screen and I didn't realize there was a scroll bar so the File and Tool options at the top where hidden. Da'oh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat View Post
    I'm working on it. I already added the PRatio part, working on the rest. If things slow up enough I may have it finished by the first of the year.
    Great to hear that you are working on it. I appreciate all the effort that you put into this program. (I think HPTuners should buy you out and add this into their software)

    For now, I have been using 100 times the PRatio in the MAP row and just divided any coefficient that contains MAP by 100 (expect the MAP squared which I divided by 10000 to make it work)

    The weird thing is that the table seems smooth and consistent through cell 23 for me but I also don't truly know what the exhaust cam tables are doing to the VVE table

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    Added update to Ver. 4.2.1

    Link as always in first post. Added PRatio support for newer DI os's. This is just a functionality patch for V4 so the newer ecm stuff can be better worked with until I find time to finish V5. Takes 3.5 times longer to gen in PRatio mode than it should compared to old format. Don't know why, don't care - as what little time I have is directed toward V5. But this should work good enough to get people by until then.

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    Are you saying that this should be able to create ve tables with more than two cam positions? Or can you only use two different cam positions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat View Post
    Added update to Ver. 4.2.1

    Link as always in first post. Added PRatio support for newer DI os's. This is just a functionality patch for V4 so the newer ecm stuff can be better worked with until I find time to finish V5. Takes 3.5 times longer to gen in PRatio mode than it should compared to old format. Don't know why, don't care - as what little time I have is directed toward V5. But this should work good enough to get people by until then.
    Realistically, on my 4 year old laptop...everything calculates very very quickly anyways...I wouldn't worry either.

    That said, I totally understand wanting to make code as efficient as possible...seems to be a lost art nowadays...most software on my PC is so unnecessarily bloated it's not even funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5banger View Post
    Are you saying that this should be able to create ve tables with more than two cam positions? Or can you only use two different cam positions?
    Nothings changed in that respect. Still cant do the exhaust cam stuff. Still only one vvt intake cam ve table that you specify the cam position it correlates to. Exhaust cam and multiple ve tables to represent many different cam positions will have to wait until V5.

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    Question, I would like to donate to the cause, how do i donate?

    This program is off the hook since it works with VE table in V8, can it be set up to do a VE tune to a camaro 1997 v6 3.8 231 cubic inches?


    And thank You Blusecat for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 507 View Post
    Question, I would like to donate to the cause, how do i donate?

    This program is off the hook since it works with VE table in V8, can it be set up to do a VE tune to a camaro 1997 v6 3.8 231 cubic inches?


    And thank You Blusecat for this.
    I believe Bluecat's paypal address is on the header when you open the program up.
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    Did I miss anything about the PRatio topic? Just curious as I see it acting a little weird when PRatio mode is unchecked, the export wants to paste to a non-existent Zone PRatio Boundaries table, when the correct table name should be Zone Map Boundaries.

    Also, if I create the VE table in Vortec format, from the imported equations parameters and I make absolutely no changes to the VE table values at all, then when I re-create equations the entire set of values is totally different the initial values. In short, can this program be used with an E67 PCM?

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    Yes I have an e67 and it works for me.

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    5banger, when you export back to HPT, you are saying the export process identifies the Zone Map Boundaries table by the correct name or does it call out the PRatio name for you too?

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    I've never had a problem with that. I think Pratio is for the newer E78 stuff. More like gen5 than gen4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBA View Post
    Did I miss anything about the PRatio topic? Just curious as I see it acting a little weird when PRatio mode is unchecked, the export wants to paste to a non-existent Zone PRatio Boundaries table, when the correct table name should be Zone Map Boundaries.

    Also, if I create the VE table in Vortec format, from the imported equations parameters and I make absolutely no changes to the VE table values at all, then when I re-create equations the entire set of values is totally different the initial values. In short, can this program be used with an E67 PCM?
    I've been having the exact same problems. When I expect it to ask for the Zone Map Boundaries....it's asking for PRatio Boundaries instead.