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    It shouldn't. If PRatio is unchecked, which it should be for anything other then newest ecm stuff, it should be looking to work with Zone Map Boundaries. It should never mention anything about PRatio stuff in the import or export dialogs, unless the PRatio box is checked. I use my software almost everyday, tuning pre-2014 stuff and haven't ever run into this issue yet. Not sure I have any idea where to start other than start flowing the screen shots when it screws up.

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    I just saw it. Its just a typo. It says Pratio in description, but its really getting ready to send you Map Boundaries. I never had any issues because I never read it, lol. Ill fix it asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat View Post
    I just saw it. Its just a typo. It says Pratio in description, but its really getting ready to send you Map Boundaries. I never had any issues because I never read it, lol. Ill fix it asap.
    lol.....Cool....Thanks for the prompt response and clarification Bluecat.... :-)

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    It's fixed. 4.2.2

    On export the labels were backwards. Said PRatio when it should have said Map, said Map with it should have said PRatio. Labels were correct on import, just wrong on export. Functionality was fine if you ignored the improper prompt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat View Post
    It's fixed. 4.2.2

    On export the labels were backwards. Said PRatio when it should have said Map, said Map with it should have said PRatio. Labels were correct on import, just wrong on export. Functionality was fine if you ignored the improper prompt.
    That is what I was hoping to hear, thanks.

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    I noticed the same issue with PRatio typo....after I looked closely at the table contents compared to my stock E38 ECU. I have a 2009 Pontiac G8 GT (6.0L) and use this a lot!

    BlueCat.....great tool that you've created for all of us! Look for a PayPal donation for the gem of "shareware". BTW.....anyone interested in donating, his PayPal address is shown in the EQ<>VE tool. When you download it, start it.....above the menu bar in the title of the window.

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    I have windows 7. How do i get it to open in hptuners? I cant get past the compressed zip file.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy View Post
    I have windows 7. How do i get it to open in hptuners? I cant get past the compressed zip file.
    You don't open it in HP tuners.

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    BLUCAT.jpg

    guys I never get past this problem , look at the picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by NNBS View Post
    BLUCAT.jpg

    guys I never get past this problem , look at the picture
    Wow! That's quite the surface!

    It reminds me of the 80's video games called the Qix.

    I can't really help other than to say there must be some bad or incomplete data being input to generate that VE surface!
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    I've notice a glitch in the newest version. Previously, with the EQ<>VE tool running....if you right-click-copy on the wrong HP Tuners table then the BlueCat tool would "flash red" and not import data. It would only "flash green" and import a correct table. It knew what was the expected format of data.

    The new version will import any table that you right-click-copy which means the wrong data could be imported to create the Virtual VE surface in the BlueCat tool.

    BlueCat this EQ<>VE tool is great! Thanks for all the effort programming it.

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    It shouldn't be working any different than previous. If you can, document the specifics on when it messes up.

    It can only check that the data is in the right format. So if its expecting a rpm boundary table and you copy the constants table it will blink red. But if its expecting the constants table and you copy rpm^2, then it can't tell the difference and will blink green and go right on because both tables are delimited the same.

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    BLUCAT.jpg bluecat I still cant get over this problem in the picture.

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    quick questions, when I load tables, I see the ve table in the bluecat is adjustable by camshaft degrees. But I see in the software that it has only two positions, 0* and 12*. my question is does this give you a curve across the full vvt sweep, or does it literally only do the 2 positions indicated. Second question, I am adjusting ve table of just the 0* position, or am I setting cam at both positions and adjusting both within the scanner.
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    To VE tune it correctly I personally lock the cam at a certain degree across the entire table and dial the VE in at that position and then I flash it again and move the cam to the other positions. This will make transient response so much better!
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    First thanks for the reply, I do appreciate. I tried the way you described with tuning both set positions, the hardest part was maintaining a consistant 12* on the second table. I found tuning ve already takes a long time, now add adding the second table, it just makes it expensive for the customer. It gave good results, I agree.

    Now what I did that gave me identical driveability. I set the cam where it would advance to actuate how I was going to utilize it in the final tune. 0* down low, with a total 12* on the top end. At first I zeroed out the "intake cam" tables, but found those gave unsatisfactory results. I retuned using all the tables, but simply tuning ve and allowing cam to actuate as I want it to. Then copy 0* to the 12* TABLE. tuning this way gave me identical results, without having to tune 2 different tables.

    This has been quite the learning experience. Like they say, there is m ore than one way to skin a cat. I have spent no less than 2 weeks on tuning this one to get the perfect setup of hp, and driveability. I have tried so many different ways. THis way I find gave me the best results, with least amount of steps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluidfalcon View Post
    I've notice a glitch in the newest version. Previously, with the EQ<>VE tool running....if you right-click-copy on the wrong HP Tuners table then the BlueCat tool would "flash red" and not import data. It would only "flash green" and import a correct table. It knew what was the expected format of data.

    The new version will import any table that you right-click-copy which means the wrong data could be imported to create the Virtual VE surface in the BlueCat tool.

    BlueCat this EQ<>VE tool is great! Thanks for all the effort programming it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecat View Post
    It shouldn't be working any different than previous. If you can, document the specifics on when it messes up.

    It can only check that the data is in the right format. So if its expecting a rpm boundary table and you copy the constants table it will blink red. But if its expecting the constants table and you copy rpm^2, then it can't tell the difference and will blink green and go right on because both tables are delimited the same.
    So when EQ<>VE blinks "green good" but importing the wrong table...it's because some tables are similar ranged/delimited?
    See <link to screenshot>sfrom Windows 7 handy built in tool "problem resolution recorder".

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    Excuse my ignorance here.

    But after generating a VE table and building a histogram. I'm not seeing in the BlueCat VE software where I can edit the generated VE table using the Lambda error values.

    I'm used to editing the VE table in LS1B ecm's.

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    I found what I was looking for.

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    Hello I am learning here and have a question about the use of Bluecat. I have a E38 ecm that is not eligible for the OS upgrade. The question is if I run Bluecat do I need to use the standard format be it LS1,2,3 and not the formats with the higher map readings. The truck is turbocharged but when I use the formats with the higher Map readings I get weird VE tables(graphs) as shown in the attachments. If I use say the LS1 the graph looks normal. I do have the 3 bar map used in the ZR1 if that makes any difference. Thank you for any and all responces.

    ls1ve.PNG2.5bar ve.PNG