Best wide band?

[GsimAviation]

What type of WB 02 and controller would be to have with pro?

[LSX378]

What type of WB 02 and controller would be to have with pro?

TechEdge. www.wbo2.com

[GsimAviation]

Do e have to order from Austrailia?

[eficalibrator]

Are you really looking for THE BEST, or something that is "affordable"? The context of whether this is just for a single enthusiast who is curious about their AFR is may result in something very different than what a professional (one who gets paid to make correct adjustments) might desire.

A lot of the "affordable" widebands are little more than toys in my experience. As a professional, I use ECM laboratory grade equipment, but that's usually outside of the typical enthusiast's budget. However, the NGK AFX is actually made by ECM and can usually be had for about $300, and it's considerably more reliable than many other units out there.

[Ben Charles]

What greg said

[jdubb]

Ive used a considerable amount of different WB setups with a few being absolutely terrible. NGK seems to be the best and it stays accurate much longer than Inovate ect...

[GsimAviation]

Are you really looking for THE BEST, or something that is "affordable"? The context of whether this is just for a single enthusiast who is curious about their AFR is may result in something very different than what a professional (one who gets paid to make correct adjustments) might desire.

A lot of the "affordable" widebands are little more than toys in my experience. As a professional, I use ECM laboratory grade equipment, but that's usually outside of the typical enthusiast's budget. However, the NGK AFX is actually made by ECM and can usually be had for about $300, and it's considerably more reliable than many other units out there.

I have your book, I worded wrong. What is the the most used wideband out there? Sorry, it may just be like Ford Chevy so I got the the LC 1

[Tunning @ LMR]

Been using the FAST system for a while now and just ordered a new LM-2. Will give you my opinion after a week of use.

[HoP]

Daytona Sensors has a really good wego IIID setup out. Superflow uses them for their dyno's. I use them on mine as well, and they have a free air calibration that you can do to ensure the o2 is working correctly

[GsimAviation]

I am returning the LC1 and getting the LM2 with analog outputs.

[realcanuk]

Very happy with the Zeitronix ZT3.

[n20kid]

Been threw 2 LM2's already and my last one I used for about a month and threw it in the toolbox.

[5_Liter_Eater]

IMO

#1 would be NGK AFX
#2 would be Innovate MTX-L (currently using this)

[air1kdf]

TechEdge. www.wbo2.com

+1 for wbo2. They are generally more accurate than most widebands because they use 10 bit versus 8 bit resolution (which is 4 times higher). Another bonus is that they have a narrowband simulator output, so you could swap a narrowband with a wideband, and keep your car's computer happy and accurate. I've tuned several vehicles with this, and the results have been great.

[HOYS]

I'm also looking for a good wideband. I'm very interested in TechEdge's DIY WB (I'm a soldering pro ) but its on a pretty long back order. The main reason I'm interested in it is because of the LSU 4.9 sensor. Is it really worth it over the older 4.2 sensors?

[DSteck]

Get the NGK and be done with it. I have three, and they all read the same every time.

[eficalibrator]

+1 for wbo2. They are generally more accurate than most widebands because they use 10 bit versus 8 bit resolution (which is 4 times higher).

Out of curiosity, when was the last time anyone on here needed to make a fueling adjustment that was less than a 0.4% (1/256, the resolution of 8bit)? I would suggest that it's more important to make sure that whatever number you're getting for lambda in the first place is properly calculated than to be able to slice a less accurate number into smaller pieces for recording and transmittal.

[Brice]

Currently looking for a ECM AFM-1000.

Greg what do you think of it compared to the NGK ?
It is really worth it ?

I'm currently using a PLX.
Bad experiences with innovate : not working ones, non accurate, ....

Where the place place to order an ECM AFM-1000 ?

I wanted a Lambda Pro ... way too expensive (about $3500).

What are the differences between an AFM 1000 ($1500) vs Lambda Pro ($3500)

[R0G3R]

I'm using the NGK here, I have the LM2 but always choose the NGK

[eficalibrator]

I obviously prefer the actual ECM units over the NGK, but I'm a pro with a dedicated budget for test equipment. The AFM1000 has a wider measurement range than the AFX, so that comes in handy a lot.

You should be able to order directly from ECM. Just call and ask for Fabio or Ron. ECM actually gives a healthy discount to the guys who take my live classes, as they like having their equipment in the hands of trained people.

I probably wouldn't recommend the LambdaPro anymore. I bought mine a while ago when there were fewer options. I just hasn't failed me, so why get rid of it?

If you're looking for more than the AFM1000, look at the AFM1500 which also includes a serial data output and can be daisy chained with a total of 16 units. Adding an external digital display is relatively cheap and easy too if you want one. All you have to do is ask ECM for a DIS1000 at the same time. (I have this combination as well!)