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    looking for some advice on...

    having some issues with this tune. while driving it, the engine keep surging up and down about 40-60 rpm. here is a few hpl files

    the 8th run.hpl is where I broke the super charger belt. dang

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    Your LTFT are hitting -24 finish tuning it and I'll bet your problem will go away
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    Quote Originally Posted by flame View Post
    Your LTFT are hitting -24 finish tuning it and I'll bet your problem will go away
    What should I set it to??
    Last edited by awdhurst; 09-27-2012 at 03:56 PM.

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    Post the tune. And Flame is right. Your fuel trims should stay around 0. -24 is dangerous
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    Quote Originally Posted by flame View Post
    Your LTFT are hitting -24 finish tuning it and I'll bet your problem will go away
    You need to adjust the VE table and MAF if you have one until your fuel trims are within 2-3%
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    Quote Originally Posted by flame View Post
    You need to adjust the VE table and MAF if you have one until your fuel trims are within 2-3%

    adjusted the LTFT boundaris for the map and rpm. it helped the throttle respones alot . not exatly sure what numbers to put in the VE and MAF

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    Quote Originally Posted by awdhurst View Post
    adjusted the LTFT boundaris for the map and rpm. it helped the throttle respones alot . not exatly sure what numbers to put in the VE and MAF
    Use your WBO to generate a correction factor for fueling. You are running an E67 ECM with a Trailblazer tune. Many using HPT would run a MAF only tune - as the VE (or VVE - depending on your point of view) tables often overwhelm the less experienced tuner.

    Also, your 2007 tune uses a Low and a High MAF table, in 2008 these were homogenized into a single table (my preference). When altering the 2007 MAF tables - make sure the highest column in the Low table (5800 Hz) has the same values as the lowest column in the High table (5800 Hz).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    Use your WBO to generate a correction factor for fueling. You are running an E67 ECM with a Trailblazer tune. Many using HPT would run a MAF only tune - as the VE (or VVE - depending on your point of view) tables often overwhelm the less experienced tuner.

    Also, your 2007 tune uses a Low and a High MAF table, in 2008 these were homogenized into a single table (my preference). When altering the 2007 MAF tables - make sure the highest column in the Low table (5800 Hz) has the same values as the lowest column in the High table (5800 Hz).
    something like this

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    You are tuning a boosted ls2 and you don't know how to tune the ve/maf table?

    Learn some basics before you blow that thing up! You should have a wideband that is logged against your VE and MAF tables so you can ensure the fueling is proper.

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    Your going to blow this thing up. You can't tune boost without a wideband. There is no way of knowing what your fuel mixture looks like until you hear a BANG
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMike42 View Post
    You are tuning a boosted ls2 and you don't know how to tune the ve/maf table?

    Learn some basics before you blow that thing up! You should have a wideband that is logged against your VE and MAF tables so you can ensure the fueling is proper.
    I have a wideband on here showing between 14.3 to 13.8 while cruzing at 65.. 2500rpm just dont have connected to the hpt .
    Last edited by awdhurst; 09-28-2012 at 05:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMike42 View Post
    You are tuning a boosted ls2 and you don't know how to tune the ve/maf table?

    Learn some basics before you blow that thing up! You should have a wideband that is logged against your VE and MAF tables so you can ensure the fueling is proper.
    thats why im here looking for some help.. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    Use your WBO to generate a correction factor for fueling. You are running an E67 ECM with a Trailblazer tune. Many using HPT would run a MAF only tune - as the VE (or VVE - depending on your point of view) tables often overwhelm the less experienced tuner.

    Also, your 2007 tune uses a Low and a High MAF table, in 2008 these were homogenized into a single table (my preference). When altering the 2007 MAF tables - make sure the highest column in the Low table (5800 Hz) has the same values as the lowest column in the High table (5800 Hz).
    Thanks for you help

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    You need to hook the wideband up to HPT. That way you can log lambda error and tuning is soooo simple.
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    First things first get a wideband and make sure you can view it in hptuners. Dont do anything until you have that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMike42 View Post
    You are tuning a boosted ls2 and you don't know how to tune the ve/maf table?

    Learn some basics before you blow that thing up! You should have a wideband that is logged against your VE and MAF tables so you can ensure the fueling is proper.
    what would be a good gauge setup?

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    small adjustments

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    Don't go WOT your PE table is not commanding enough fuel your around 13.3 AFR (nor is your MAF from what I can tell)

    Your limited by the 512 G/sec limit too, going to have to have a scaled tune or the PE table is going to have to be modded. Since your a centri blower REALLY either would work, but one is the more professional way of doing it.

    Tune needs a lot of work

    EDIT: Looked at a pull you did, don't go WOT again your maxing out the MAF G/sec limit at 4400 and your shifting it 6000+ with a PE table commanding 13.0 AFR (you have stoich as 14.3).
    Last edited by Ben Charles; 09-29-2012 at 04:28 PM.

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    testing the wb02 input

    testing the wb02. It shows up on the table display and the chart display. How do I get it to show up on the histogram chart? or is it not suppose to?

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    You have to add it to the chart settings and histogram settings configuration.
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