DOD & Variable Cam, Delete questions

[ProTools4]

Customer brought me a 2010 truck
No start

it has DOD and variable cam physicaly deleted via enging built.

5pin connector is loose at the back of the motor
no variable buisness to plug into at the timing cover

?do the conectors need to be plugged in?
?do certain DTCs beed to be left on or turned off?

Cranks but no start
-has fuel pressure
-has spark
-PCM commands PW at cranking
-PCM works great in another truck
-good voltage at the coil harness
-all fuses check good

2010 4x4 1500 6.2Liter 9.2:1CR large heads and cam Whipple charger

Note:
changing cranking AFR has no effect on cranking
changing the crancing advance makes it almost want to hit

[camaro1]

yes the dod needs to be turned off and codes for the solenoids set to no error report,, otherwise the pcm automatically goes into 4cyl default mode, if it would start it would only run on 4cyl's,, seen this many times

vvt cam should also be set to none.

[ProTools4]

yes the dod needs to be turned off and codes for the solenoids set to no error report,, otherwise the pcm automatically goes into 4cyl default mode, if it would start it would only run on 4cyl's,, seen this many times

vvt cam should also be set to none.

Got that already

DOD = Disable
Camshafts = None

DTCs disabled:
P0010
P0011
P3400-P03457

cranks no start

[camaro1]

probly need to verify the engine build, crank reluctor and sensor and that the correct 4x cam gear and cover/sensor were used, if you didnt build the engine(who knows what parts are in it)

[ProTools4]

I have tried:

-more fuel & less fuel
-more cranking advance & less advance
*adding advance almost made it start

the plugs were visibly wet so backed off off more than a little

it is not setting any DTCs

My gut says it has a cam or crank position sensor issue

here is a datalog of less fuel

I'm picking up after another tuner has been inside it already.
So I changed what bugded me in the tune then went into Diag Mode.

anyone?

[ProTools4]

probly need to verify the engine build, crank reluctor and sensor and that the correct 4x cam gear and cover/sensor were used, if you didnt build the engine(who knows what parts are in it)

camaro1
Digging the sig mods :-)
BTW
What does your 2010 A6 make at the wheels?

yes there could be any number of issues with the build
from wrong parts to runnout sensor reclutor issues

the customer is in the know about the motor
proven local Los Angles builder, I have dynoed the builders motors several times
I can get all the PNs and info if I press the matter
Motor is built to non AFM / non DOD / non variable cam.

the connector for DOD is loose at the back of the motor as it has nothing to plug into

cant hardly see the Timing over sensor parts

[ProTools4]

original 5.3 VVT cover is not on the motor
a standard LS2 timing cover was used
with a normal high perofmance timing set

? isnt the VVT 5 wire and the LS2 3 wire CPS connector?

[Chris@HPTuners]

in teh scanner try logging Fuel CUt Type, ETC Source, ETC TqMgt Type, Spark TqMgt Type, Fuel CUt TqMgt Type

that will give you an indication if anything weird is happening

[ProTools4]

What I tryed:
-Set timing for cranking and idle from -30 to +55
*would kinda fire and idle for a second at +55 degrees
-set the fuel from stupid rich to studip lean
*made no measurable difference
-pulled the injector fuses and tyied to fire it on started fluid
*it would not fire on starter fluid
**duplicated the starter fluid test on near identical whipple truck and it ran good like that.

Next:
-find top dead center and make a zero timing mark and hit it with a timing light

?if there is fuel cut I would have no commanded PW correct?

[ProTools4]

here is it almost starting
@ 55 degrees timing and low PW
Put it on jumper cables to my Lt1 caprice that has a high amp alt to ensure good voltage

[camaro1]

how about getting back to basics, did you do a compression test and a leak down test

[ProTools4]

I asked
Shop owner refused to do a leak down
the motor is zero miles fresh from his proven builder
maybe he will change his mind as desperation set in

[Mep_q8]

Just for a sec unplug the maf and try switching on the motor. If it works, its sometimes best to start all over again on a fresh new file.

[Montecarlodrag]

Basic test: Does it have spark? Does it have injector pulse?

[ProTools4]

Basic test: Does it have spark? Does it have injector pulse?

Spark = Yes
*jumped a TR6 Grounded to the head with the strap open to .060+ gap

Injector Pulse = Yes
*commanded PW responds to min inj PW or MAF or Cranking VE
*noid light jives with commanded PW
*cranked w/ plug out fuel and air mixure ejects on the exhaust storke

[ProTools4]

Just for a sec unplug the maf and try switching on the motor. If it works, its sometimes best to start all over again on a fresh new file.

Tryed that..

Unplugged the MAF
in MAF mode PW dropps to commanded min. PW as soon as the motor trys to hit...if it trys to hit
Swtched to VE and then commanded PW jives with cranking VE

[Chris@HPTuners]

your MAP sensor is reading boost (125kPa) in the log. Maybe that is a problem? Also, you have a lot of ignition timing, 55 deg is a lot!!

[Mike@G-Force]

If your getting incorrect map readings it wont start period.

[ProTools4]

Map values are set to
linear 312.50
offset -11.25

ZR1 Map Part Number = 12592525

touching boost... I know
small pullied Whipple pedaling it to fire.

[nighttowl]

id check one cylinder for compression. if none, id pull the timing case cover to check timing.
maybe someone has a stock hpt file???