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    VE table almost done

    On the ve table I am commanding 12.41 @WOT how do I fix it or do I
    I am at 0-1 95% and 2in some pots. or is my MAF going to take it over?
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    guessing its for the 2002 T/A

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    yes and i have the table set to 1 for 140 to 230
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    post your tune and a log

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    would I just put 99 at the top if the table or leave it
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    Here's ur sign

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    if i move it i will have to change my ve and my maf right. so move to 1.17 I should be at 12.5 @wot right
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    stoich afr divided by desired afr = pe table input
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    stoich afr divided by pe table = commanded afr

    yes you would need to adjust ve and maf if you have your afr matching, commanded afr.

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    If your MAF and VE tables are tuned correctly you will not have to redo them if you change the PE table.
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    they are not, afr is all over

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    Does everyones AFR move up for the first 5 min and then down to normal after 10 min. I am doing 20 to 25 min logs. Is there a easyer way or something diffret to do.
    Will someone look at my log and let me know if my afr is realy all over the place! This is the latest.
    Do I need to reset my fuel trim on every scan? I have not been doing that!
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    anyone?
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    Disable the A.I.R. pump.

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    Is this engine / general /air pump disable F and it is at 14 what would disable it 0?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Google View Post
    guessing its for the 2002 T/A
    Not to hijack this thread, but I find this table posted very interesting. If I wanted to have the car run a bit richer in the low to mid MAP area, could I just not adjust this chart when running in SD to command a little richer than stoich?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6Fury View Post
    Not to hijack this thread, but I find this table posted very interesting. If I wanted to have the car run a bit richer in the low to mid MAP area, could I just not adjust this chart when running in SD to command a little richer than stoich?

    http://www.hptuners.com/forum/attach...3&d=1284927751
    yes and no.

    s.d. open loop = yes
    closed loop = no
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    Quote Originally Posted by gothp28 View Post
    Is this engine / general /air pump disable F and it is at 14 what would disable it 0?
    Just set it to maximum 284 or whatever it's at in your version.

    When tuning VE forget about PE. You should have 30-50 counts for the AFR error set in your scanner histogram to make it meaningfull and more accurate. Try to drive/accelerate very smoothly and avoid accelerating fast. Also try hand smoothing the chart between each itrations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sssalah View Post
    Just set it to maximum 284 or whatever it's at in your version.

    When tuning VE forget about PE. You should have 30-50 counts for the AFR error set in your scanner histogram to make it meaningfull and more accurate. Try to drive/accelerate very smoothly and avoid accelerating fast. Also try hand smoothing the chart between each itrations.
    I was talking about the air pump. Not OL&CL the intake air temp is set to 284 I know how to work on the VE table the first 5 or 10 mins when car is warm this what we are talking about. Starts out lean then richens up after 10 mins even after the car is warm.
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    SLP headers, Hi-flo cats, loud mouth, Mcleod twin disc clutch, Mcleod throw out bearing, Ported TB, TB by pass, ELE.water pump, 160 stat, 12 bolt, 411 gear, MTI lid,SLP bellows, SLP maf no resistor ,Under drive pulles, Removed Air pump, Spohn PRO Ajustable torque arm,QA1 12 way ajustable shock up front, Spohn pro drag sway bar, Spohn Rear Ajustable LCA, AEM A/F gauge and a Set of Bogart w/27'' tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by sssalah View Post
    Just set it to maximum 284 or whatever it's at in your version.

    When tuning VE forget about PE. You should have 30-50 counts for the AFR error set in your scanner histogram to make it meaningfull and more accurate. Try to drive/accelerate very smoothly and avoid accelerating fast. Also try hand smoothing the chart between each itrations.
    Sorry I was looking at old posts and 284 will disable it. Thanks
    2002 CE T/A M6
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    SLP headers, Hi-flo cats, loud mouth, Mcleod twin disc clutch, Mcleod throw out bearing, Ported TB, TB by pass, ELE.water pump, 160 stat, 12 bolt, 411 gear, MTI lid,SLP bellows, SLP maf no resistor ,Under drive pulles, Removed Air pump, Spohn PRO Ajustable torque arm,QA1 12 way ajustable shock up front, Spohn pro drag sway bar, Spohn Rear Ajustable LCA, AEM A/F gauge and a Set of Bogart w/27'' tires