Looks like that is the trend with the vettes. The CTSV only has values in 5th and 6th.Originally Posted by da vette guy
Looks like that is the trend with the vettes. The CTSV only has values in 5th and 6th.
I was just making these change on my stock G8 and I noticed if you double click
on the whole table another table comes up Turbine RPM Axis.
Surprised the hell out of me. Anyone ever see this?
Should I leave the Min slip AC on at 20rpm?
Last edited by mondi2002; 02-17-2011 at 08:31 PM.
That is the same if you were to right click and edit the "Col Axis".
The min slip AC is probably there so you don't notice the AC compressor transition as much. If your tuned correctly, your AC will disengage at a more power conducive RPM/TPS anyway. I don't see the number causing harm, but I have mine set to ZERO. I've noticed any value of 20 or less still leads to a slip RPM of 10 or less with a stock converter. 20 RPM does not mesh with a triple disk however.
HP has recently released another update for the 6L80E. This update allows full control of the TCC min apply (adder). I've tested it and works as advertised.
The compressor cycles on and off constantly even while cruising. The slip is there so you don't feel it all the time, especially sitting at a stoplight like you can with older cars. you can feel it bonk on and off.
.150 or is there a newer one?
newer.
Jaime
Newest is 2.23.193
It doesn't have to be perfect, it just needs to be done in two weeks...
A wise man once said "google it"
Damn, can I get on an auto update list? Everytime I get one a new one comes out! lol.
HP is doing a good job with adding critical tables as we find a need for them. I'll take one update a week if it means I get to have more control over something...
im running 23.128 since ive had little to no issues with it, what does the newest have for the 6L80E?
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Full control of the TCC min/max apply value. Currently the stock setting is 17.8 psi which is not conducive to triple disk converters. Those feel better with a zero min apply. I run multiple values depending on the converter I'm running. Guys who want to lockup at WOT while racing can run a tune that applies max value instantaneously.
Ok, so I zero'd out all my TCC tables and LOST fuel efficiency. Is there any harm in making my tables diminishing tables for the gears? In other words, decrease the values as the TPS% increases until I get to Zero for the values? I posted a question about this also http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33264. I would think you would not want any slip at higher TPS% anyway.
2013 OBM A6 CTS-V Coupe
Mods: Headers back Billy Boat Exhaust, GripTec 2.65, 8.6 PowerBond Lower, LSX Innovations Solid Isolator, ID850's, NGK TR7IX's, Accel 9070CK Wires, Spectre CAI, SRI Ported Throttle Body, SRI Catch Can, NGK AFRM, 160* T-Stat, 0fx2gv Brick, Hard Line Delete W/3/4" Lines, FB 101 FMIC, Pierberg CWA50, Stoptech Drilled/Slotted Rotors, EBC Redstuff, Cut Stock Springs, Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
2006 Black Raven STS-V (Traded In)
Fully Modded: 459RWHP@5888rpm/451lbft@4696rpm
The TCC slip tables are torque vs. rpm not TPS. Odd that you would lose fuel efficiency, commanding a lower rpm generally leads to better economy. I would say there are other factors at play. If you are commanding zero slip in DOD mode, which is where the money is made, you are definitely getting better economy. I gained 2 mpg just by doing that. I can drive from my house to OKC on one tank with 3.7 gears. The stock setup yielded the same trip/fuel used as well, but now I run 11's. The general rule of thumb is to mimic stock theory and refine it for your application. With the stock converter you can try just about anything, its single disk setup is pretty forgiving. I would say to play with multiple variations and see what feels the the best.
So the DOD and the TCC AC tables BOTH need to be zero'd, correct? If so I only completed 1/2 the equation. I will have to dig into it tonight.
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2013 OBM A6 CTS-V Coupe
Mods: Headers back Billy Boat Exhaust, GripTec 2.65, 8.6 PowerBond Lower, LSX Innovations Solid Isolator, ID850's, NGK TR7IX's, Accel 9070CK Wires, Spectre CAI, SRI Ported Throttle Body, SRI Catch Can, NGK AFRM, 160* T-Stat, 0fx2gv Brick, Hard Line Delete W/3/4" Lines, FB 101 FMIC, Pierberg CWA50, Stoptech Drilled/Slotted Rotors, EBC Redstuff, Cut Stock Springs, Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
2006 Black Raven STS-V (Traded In)
Fully Modded: 459RWHP@5888rpm/451lbft@4696rpm
Yes the DOD tables need zeroed as well. The normal tables will simply allow lockup at lower gear/speeds. As load is induced so is fuel consumption, so locking up at certain rpms will infact require more fuel. The benifit of zeroing out the DOD tables is overall load is decreased as the engine goes into 4 cylinder mode. You can monitor this with the delivered torque PID selected. I see savings in your future if you can keep your foot out of it LOL!!!
Except I do not have DOD so I think I may be SOL.......... Mine is VVT.
2013 OBM A6 CTS-V Coupe
Mods: Headers back Billy Boat Exhaust, GripTec 2.65, 8.6 PowerBond Lower, LSX Innovations Solid Isolator, ID850's, NGK TR7IX's, Accel 9070CK Wires, Spectre CAI, SRI Ported Throttle Body, SRI Catch Can, NGK AFRM, 160* T-Stat, 0fx2gv Brick, Hard Line Delete W/3/4" Lines, FB 101 FMIC, Pierberg CWA50, Stoptech Drilled/Slotted Rotors, EBC Redstuff, Cut Stock Springs, Flat Bottom Steering Wheel
2006 Black Raven STS-V (Traded In)
Fully Modded: 459RWHP@5888rpm/451lbft@4696rpm
Hmm you sure you don't? Send me your tune and I'll take a look.
Ah the supercharged northstar. Nope you don't. Surprised you even had stock desired slip in 6th gear. Well at least you have a blower, that means more potential boost.
Last edited by Waker; 03-10-2011 at 08:10 PM.
Sorry to bump an old thread but it seemed like a good place to post this. I've set all the tables to 0 both for AC off and DOD, but I'm still getting a bunch of slip. I'm really green when it comes to tuning, but I've read this whole thread plus the A6 basics thread, so I know a little, maybe even enough to be dangerous.
Last edited by Niemer; 07-25-2012 at 09:36 PM.
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