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    6L80E TCC Apply Issue Fixed!!!

    Anyone running the 6L80E transmission now has the availability of full lockup at any speed/psi (tranny integrity limiting). Vince has re-wrote the code for all us guys wanting WOT lockup on our triple disk, or even the guy just wanting the extra MPG gained from zero slip. NO MORE PULSATING!!!! PM me for info. Or call Vince at 425-844-0320. Oh, you can also overlay your HP tune on top
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    You can call Vince and he will give you a couple options on how to acquire his OS. The beauty is you can still run your HP tune. He has been logging all day and I will start tomorrow with my Camaro. The fix is global so it will probably require tweaking based on converter setup. I know the G8's, trucks, and corvettes all slip cruising down the highway (because I've loaded their OS), I have fixed this by tricking the TCM, but Vince has done even better by re-writing it.
    Last edited by Waker; 08-29-2010 at 11:48 PM.
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    i sent you a pm.

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    Waker, I would like to look at the TCC program for the 6L80. I have an '09 G8 I am currently working on the trans and your post looks like it may address one of the things I have been dealing with. Sure appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeker1 View Post
    Waker, I would like to look at the TCC program for the 6L80E. I have an '09 G8 I am currently working on the trans and your post looks like it may address one of the things I have been dealing with. Sure appreciate it!
    Vince is currently selling the flash which zero's out all desired slip tables and changes the min apply to zero. He will soon be adding my tranny tune to his flash, but we are not quite there yet. With the G8's, as well as most other 6L80E applications, you will see an increase in mpg after the flash. Almost all of GM vehicles running anny version of the 6L80E have a desired slip of around 100rpm while cruising. This new flash will eliminate the slip as well as increase the converters life.
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    Maybe this is a dumb question, but if the tables can be accessed and modified, why are they not available in the HPT software suite for this transmission?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TYRFRYR View Post
    Maybe this is a dumb question, but if the tables can be accessed and modified, why are they not available in the HPT software suite for this transmission?
    HP nor EFI live are accessing these.
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    we can add them, i didn't know it was an issue... las time i looked at this folks said the ramp rate table was the fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@HPTuners View Post
    we can add them, i didn't know it was an issue... las time i looked at this folks said the ramp rate table was the fix.
    I actually brought this up almost a year ago and have mentioned it several times after. The ramp table does nothing to alleviate desired slip or the oncoming TCC preset value that is destroying aftermarket converters.
    Last edited by Waker; 10-03-2010 at 08:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@HPTuners View Post
    we can add them, i didn't know it was an issue... las time i looked at this folks said the ramp rate table was the fix.
    that would be great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@HPTuners View Post
    we can add them, i didn't know it was an issue... las time i looked at this folks said the ramp rate table was the fix.
    Do work son!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@HPTuners View Post
    we can add them, i didn't know it was an issue... las time i looked at this folks said the ramp rate table was the fix.
    When you add the desired slip tables, don't forget about giving access to the TCC min apply.
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    Chris we need the TCC min/max apply tables like we had access to in the previous GM tunes.

    The ramp did nothing for me as well, I am still running the stock converter but I would like to be able to do those tables like I did before to get rid of the slip. I always ran 90% in my minimum table and 100% in the maximum to allow the converter to lock instead of slipping. Helped with gas mileage and the "harshness" that GM is trying to get rid of never bothered me in the first place.

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    ramp tables did nothing here also,
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    ok here's a list of what i've found and will be added next week:

    TCC Desired Slip AC Off vs. Gear
    Min Desired Slip AC On
    Use DoD Slip
    TCC Desired Slip DoD vs. Gear
    Desired Slip DoD Off Transition
    Desired Slip DoD On Transition

    High Speed Lock Enable
    High Speed Lock Disable

    TCC Adapt:
    Trans Temp Min
    Trans Temp Max
    TPS Min
    TPS Max
    Torque Min
    Torque Max
    VSS Min
    VSS Max
    Adapt Min Pressure
    Adapt Max Pressure
    Adapt Cell Preload Pressures
    Adapt Cell Torque Breakpoints

    TCC Max Pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakyws6 View Post
    Chris we need the TCC min/max apply tables like we had access to in the previous GM tunes.

    The ramp did nothing for me as well, I am still running the stock converter but I would like to be able to do those tables like I did before to get rid of the slip. I always ran 90% in my minimum table and 100% in the maximum to allow the converter to lock instead of slipping. Helped with gas mileage and the "harshness" that GM is trying to get rid of never bothered me in the first place.
    these tables do not exist for the 6L80e
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    Wow. This is going to make life a lot easier. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@HPTuners View Post
    ok here's a list of what i've found and will be added next week:

    TCC Desired Slip AC Off vs. Gear
    Min Desired Slip AC On
    Use DoD Slip
    TCC Desired Slip DoD vs. Gear
    Desired Slip DoD Off Transition
    Desired Slip DoD On Transition

    High Speed Lock Enable
    High Speed Lock Disable

    TCC Adapt:
    Trans Temp Min
    Trans Temp Max
    TPS Min
    TPS Max
    Torque Min
    Torque Max
    VSS Min
    VSS Max
    Adapt Min Pressure
    Adapt Max Pressure
    Adapt Cell Preload Pressures
    Adapt Cell Torque Breakpoints

    TCC Max Pressure

    Can't wait to try it
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    please let us know when this new beta is out.
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    im exited.
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