new beta with E38/E67/T43 torque management additions

[Chris@HPTuners]

guys new 2.23 beta with some new stuff:

Engine, Torque Management
Tip-In Limiting
- disable to remove any tip-in torque limiting, for M6's also disable Spark M6 Smoothing. This has recently been calibrated and is most obvious as throttle is clamped to around 30-40% for a few seconds on tip-in from a dead stop.

Trans, Torque Management
Tip-In TqMgt
Flare TqMgt
- setting to None, won't necessarily remove TqMgt it is more a suggestion to the ECM
Limit TqMgt
- Setting the Enable temp high will disable this TqMgt.

These next 3 are additional checks after the master Upshift, CT Downshift, Power Downshift and Garage Shift torque management disbles. ie. Even if you disable Power Downshift torque management the TCM still checks for downshift skip shift torque management and speed control terminate ramping. These control engine flare during skip shifts via neutral.

Neutral Down Skip
- disable to eliminate torque management on downshift skip shifts via neutral
Sync Down Skip
- disable to eliminate torque management on downshift skip shifts at sync (not sure what these are but generally this isn't enabled anyway).
Speed Ctrl Terminate
- set to Immediate to prevent ramping out torque after speed control torque management ie. once the shift ends so does torque management.

Setting these 3 to disabled, disabled and immediate, along with disabling the Upshift, CT Downshift, Power Downshift and Garage Shift should disable *ALL* clutch based transmission torque management for all shifts. Obviously, things like clutches may wear a lot quicker or break if you do this, but anyway racing is about pushing parts to the limit right?

Trans, Desired Output Torque
- added downshift tables

Trans, Adaptive Pressure
- added adapt disables


New Scanner MPIDs
- ETC Source (tells you what is currently controlling the throttle)
- ETC TqMgt Type (if torque mgt is active what is requesting throttle)
- Spark TqMgt Type (if torque mgt is active what is requesting spark)
- Fuel Cut TqMgt Type (if torque mgt is active what is requesting fuel cut)

These are really useful for troubleshooting torque management related issues.

Please email support for access to the beta if you have a vehicle that may benefit from these additions.


Chris...

[VORTECMAX]

Cool....

[VYSSLS1]

very nice Chris

[boomer]

Sounds good!

[redhardsupra]

could we have ETCsource for other ETC cars?

[Chris@HPTuners]

could we have ETCsource for other ETC cars?

which do you have in mind? From memory i don't think many others have a state variable that tracks the ETC source. Maybe E40 does, not sure about LS1.

[redhardsupra]

e40 and c5 vettes are the only ones i can think of with ETC, i dont know if they keep track of the source or not

[sky888]

Hi Chris......this 2.3 beta is also applicable for the ecotec/lnf engine?

will turbocharged ecotec/lnf engines benefit from this?

thanks!

[Bill@HPTuners]

The E67 equipped ones likely have a couple of new TM tables but most calibrations have them disabled.

[VTuner]

How about the E55 and E70 pcms (Saab 2.8T). Can we take a look at the new beta as well?

Thanks,
Brian

The E67 equipped ones likely have a couple of new TM tables but most calibrations have them disabled.

[Bill@HPTuners]

Sure however there isn't anything new for you guys, although I would like some testers for the scanner for your applications so just contact support with your serial number & a link to this thread and I'll send it your way when I'm back in the office tomorrow.

[mohd]

I think RTT. not work by scanner
thanks

[Bill@HPTuners]

Yeah its know that RTT is disabled currently while we add features to it.

Please keep this in mind though regarding beta versions

[PurplePiss]

When is the next public release going to be? The last version came out in June of 2008 right?

[Bill@HPTuners]

When is the next public release going to be? The last version came out in June of 2008 right?

No eta at the moment.

[thesubfloor]

Any ETA on control over the PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) in the A6 yet?

[Bill@HPTuners]

Was it requested through support or via the forum? I don't recall receiving any emails regarding it so don't even know if its being looked into in all honesty.

[thesubfloor]

Was it requested through support or via the forum? I don't recall receiving any emails regarding it so don't even know if its being looked into in all honesty.

Neither actually.

What happened was that I noticed a while back there was a PID for it in the scanner but it never shows any values other than zero, so I just assumed it was a feature that you were in the process of implementing but hadn’t fully finished.

I did however just discover that not being able to turn it off is wreaking havoc on the lockup clutches of aftermarket torque converters since the clutch material they use is not designed to withstand the constant on-off that results from PWM.

Can you consider this my official request or do I need to start another thread for it?

Thanks,
Christopher

[Bill@HPTuners]

Please email support with exactly what you are looking for whether scanner or editor related along with your .hpt file and any helpful scanner logs and a vcm suite infolog while connected to the vehicle in question

[thesubfloor]

Please email support with exactly what you are looking for whether scanner or editor related along with your .hpt file and any helpful scanner logs and a vcm suite infolog while connected to the vehicle in question

Will do, thanks.