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    ways to make a stock 4l60 live

    Is there anything that can be done to the tune to help the demise of a 4l60e? I have a 2002 camaro ss that I turboed. The car is converted 3 bar speed density and as of now has a bone stock transmission tune in it. The car made 540 rwhp through the auto with the converter locked, and I was wondering if there is anything to be done to help the transmission not blow up on the first pass.
    Last edited by fasttrackperformace; 12-11-2008 at 06:35 PM.

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    I would be concerned that the motor torque model
    (vs airflow, spark, RPM, AFR) is well off from GM's
    stock one, and this (Delivered Torque - Trans) is
    pushed right through to the line pressure through
    a series of calculations & tables.

    I'd be logging the DTT and the force motor current,
    make sure that line pressure is all-in (current to
    zero) by the time you get past maybe 200lb-ft
    under all conditions. You could play with that to
    shave away pump losses and gain MPG like GM
    did originally, but I don't think that's why people
    put turbos.

    It may be interesting for you to either export data
    to Excel, or make a custom PID for internal slip
    going by (input shaft / output shaft) ratio, vs the
    nominal gear ratio. You're looking for flare or an
    extended time required to haul down to the true
    ratio, either one of which would indicate that the
    frictions are not getting enough actuation pressure
    or (if at zero force motor current) are just not up
    to the job and want you to get busy with the
    replacement unit.

    The torque model is not very accessible, Trans
    General Pressure may have some line modifiers
    for holding pressure (beyond the usual during-
    shift pressures) and if you don't get satisfaction
    the force motor table is there as a more crude
    handle on things. I would suspect the most
    trouble at part throttle where the PCM is trying
    to be "smart" and using "just enough" pressure,
    WOT is probably all-in (but trust noone). You
    could eyeball the profile I use on mine, just to
    get a sense of other ways to roll off the current
    and roll on the pressure than GM did; maybe take
    it further if you encounter slip. Look for the trans
    spreadsheet I post occasionally or my later
    repository tune.

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    Not Locking The Converter Would Be A Good Start...

    Lots Of Line Pressure, Quick Shift Times, Mabye Tq Managment For Shifts?

    Im Sure Jummyblue Could Hook You Up With A Nice Tune...

    He Had My Stock Tranny Working Better Than I Ever Thought Was Possible

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    why not just build the transmission?
    tptransmission.com

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    best thing to do is upgrade that trans even built is a peice of crap above 550rwh ive broke many of them.my cars at above 700rwh.I have the 4l65e