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    N/A E-85 timing

    I was just curious how much timing you guys are running with e-85 n/a. Im running 26? max timing with 0 knock, and was wondering if i could go more, or do you recomend less
    2019 challenger rt
    k&N cold air intake
    92mm hellcat throttlebody
    ported 392 intake manifold
    ported eagle heads
    Cammotion custom 222/234 cam
    stainless works long tube headers and catless mid pipes
    3' catback with h-pipe & pypes violator mufflers
    e-85 tuned
    3.70 lsd

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    how much timing it will want is dependant on how much dome the piston has

    *but i doubt it will want more than 26 no matter what is in it
    Last edited by LilSick; 1 Week Ago at 02:39 PM.

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    Assuming you are running stock compression and stock specked pistons, ect., I wanna say 28 degrees is about as high as you can go with the 5.7L. If you are running E85 thats testing close to 80% or higher, you could probably get away with trying a run with 28 degreres adv.
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    The station usually reads 80-85%, so pretty good e85. And yes, stock pistons, all work done is in my signature.
    2019 challenger rt
    k&N cold air intake
    92mm hellcat throttlebody
    ported 392 intake manifold
    ported eagle heads
    Cammotion custom 222/234 cam
    stainless works long tube headers and catless mid pipes
    3' catback with h-pipe & pypes violator mufflers
    e-85 tuned
    3.70 lsd

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    my buddies 13:1 5.7 based motor only wants 26 degrees on good E

    its in a 2700# dart

    cant imagine yers wanting more than that at what? 4400?

    he is leaving on a brake and at a lot higher rpm than you so maybe cant compare

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    I've never seen much of a gain on 5.7s after 24 degrees on E85.
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    26 is about the max, some of it depends on elevation, closer to see level, and dry air 28 is max and very rarely shows any gain over 24-26
    cam Motion stick GRIND# XA227/375-XA235/375-13.5+3
    I've had that in a few 5.7s good cam, Why did you go with a 222/234 duration ? may I ask the lift ?

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    Original plan was to go supercharger, but im going a different route. Also wanted something that pulled good to 6400ish rpms. And i live in florida, so very low elevation, but nasty during summer
    2019 challenger rt
    k&N cold air intake
    92mm hellcat throttlebody
    ported 392 intake manifold
    ported eagle heads
    Cammotion custom 222/234 cam
    stainless works long tube headers and catless mid pipes
    3' catback with h-pipe & pypes violator mufflers
    e-85 tuned
    3.70 lsd