Cant get a steady/stable idle from off idle to approx 1700 rpm, Gen 4 LS3 E38

[sgod1100]

Hilarious LMAO
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this is the EXACT meme I was thinking of too..lmao. Sorry to interrupt....carry on

[edcmat-l1]

Its not that I enjoy taking shots at you, but you have a bad habit of coming on to peoples post including myself and just saying put it back to stock. Then talk about how good you are at tuning , then offer no insight to anyone's issue.

I offer plenty of help to people based on whatever it is their current problem is. The reason you keep hearing or reading the same thing from me is you're the one making almost random changes that are needless or even counterproductive. I'm sorry if you don't recognize the fact that what I preach is simplicity and there's a lot of value in that. It's not because it's bad advice it's because it's not what you want to hear.

I don't have anything to prove to you or anyone else. I do this all day every day. I don't have these kinds of problems especially with something as simple as this. If you can't understand that's based on my approach, that's on you.

There's a bunch of stuff changed in this file that I wouldn't. You can keep changing stuff hoping to hit on the magic bullet or you can undo a bunch of stuff you've already done. Up to you.

[sgod1100]

I offer plenty of help to people based on whatever it is their current problem is. The reason you keep hearing or reading the same thing from me is you're the one making almost random changes that are needless or even counterproductive. I'm sorry if you don't recognize the fact that what I preach is simplicity and there's a lot of value in that. It's not because it's bad advice it's because it's not what you want to hear.

I don't have anything to prove to you or anyone else. I do this all day every day. I don't have these kinds of problems especially with something as simple as this. If you can't understand that's based on my approach, that's on you.

There's a bunch of stuff changed in this file that I wouldn't. You can keep changing stuff hoping to hit on the magic bullet or you can undo a bunch of stuff you've already done. Up to you.

Man, I really wish you could figure out why some of us are having a random lean condition at 2600 rpms....23 pages in all of us are still stumped..different thread of course. Again, sorry OP about interrupting

[edcmat-l1]

Man, I really wish you could figure out why some of us are having a random lean condition at 2600 rpms....23 pages in all of us are still stumped..different thread of course. Again, sorry OP about interrupting

I've done a crap ton of LSAs also and have experienced the same issue a few times. I don't have an answer for that, that's why I've never replied to that thread.

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[sgod1100]

I've done a crap ton of LSAs also and have experienced the same issue a few times. I don't have an answer for that, that's why I've never replied to that thread.

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Damn, worth a shot....lol. i've resorted to raping thee crap out of my PE table at the 2500 rpm cell

[Allen Vos]

I offer plenty of help to people based on whatever it is their current problem is. The reason you keep hearing or reading the same thing from me is you're the one making almost random changes that are needless or even counterproductive. I'm sorry if you don't recognize the fact that what I preach is simplicity and there's a lot of value in that. It's not because it's bad advice it's because it's not what you want to hear.

I don't have anything to prove to you or anyone else. I do this all day every day. I don't have these kinds of problems especially with something as simple as this. If you can't understand that's based on my approach, that's on you.

There's a bunch of stuff changed in this file that I wouldn't. You can keep changing stuff hoping to hit on the magic bullet or you can undo a bunch of stuff you've already done. Up to you.

Ok, clearly you are nothing but a bunch of talk here. You have offered zero insight as to what my issue could be. Yet you like to gloat and brag about how many cars you have tuned and come on here and talk like a condescending jack ass.

Truth is, I don't think you know much about this stuff or you would offer help.

Why in the world you mentioned spark smoothing when clearly that's not my issue.

Then I post the tune as per your request and you cant even be bothered to look?

This is a tuning forum where people come to learn stuff , not a forum to bring you extra business.

Like why do you even come on here and respond in the first place?

Everything you have said to me has been wrong and you have led me down a rabbit hole way to many times and enough is enough.

You say I have changed way to much in my tune? Prove it big mouth!!!




Put your money where your mouth is and show me what's wrong with my tune or just stop talking.

If this is really so simple as you say, why haven't you or anyone else figured this out?

Stay the hell off my posts with your shitty attitude.

Maybe someone who actually knows what they are talking about will chime in.

[Allen Vos]

Man, I really wish you could figure out why some of us are having a random lean condition at 2600 rpms....23 pages in all of us are still stumped..different thread of course. Again, sorry OP about interrupting

Dude. Don't even bother with Ed, he will waste your time and run you around in circles. The guy likes to hear himself talk and that's about the only use he is on here.

There are other people on here who have a much better attitude and are helpful

[edcmat-l1]

Ok, clearly you are nothing but a bunch of talk here. You have offered zero insight as to what my issue could be. Yet you like to gloat and brag about how many cars you have tuned and come on here and talk like a condescending jack ass.

Truth is, I don't think you know much about this stuff or you would offer help.

Why in the world you mentioned spark smoothing when clearly that's not my issue.

Then I post the tune as per your request and you cant even be bothered to look?

This is a tuning forum where people come to learn stuff , not a forum to bring you extra business.

Like why do you even come on here and respond in the first place?

Everything you have said to me has been wrong and you have led me down a rabbit hole way to many times and enough is enough.

You say I have changed way to much in my tune? Prove it big mouth!!!




Put your money where your mouth is and show me what's wrong with my tune or just stop talking.

If this is really so simple as you say, why haven't you or anyone else figured this out?

Stay the hell off my posts with your shitty attitude.

Maybe someone who actually knows what they are talking about will chime in.

I looked at your tune. I told you there's a bunch of stuff you've changed I wouldn't touch. I have not been condescending whatsoever, especially in this thread.

The spark behavior is typical of spark smoothing. I don't expect you to know that because well, you're an idiot.

You're a soft man. You get your feelings hurt pretty easily. You're a jackass and an idiot to boot.

I'll stop talking when I damn well feel like it and you're not the idiot to make me.

[Allen Vos]

I looked at your tune. I told you there's a bunch of stuff you've changed I wouldn't touch. I have not been condescending whatsoever, especially in this thread.

The spark behavior is typical of spark smoothing. I don't expect you to know that because well, you're an idiot.

You're a soft man. You get your feelings hurt pretty easily. You're a jackass and an idiot to boot.

I'll stop talking when I damn well feel like it and you're not the idiot to make me.

You haven't replied with shit about my tune bud. Absolutely nothing. All's you talk about is yourself lol

Your nothing but a shit talker. Maybe you would be interested in knowing what your so called buddies on here have to say about you?

I should just post the emails.

You act like your god or something lol

Your also dead wrong about spark smoothing.

Its the adaptive idle pulling spark out , nothing more and you have refused several times to explain yourself as to why this is happening despite having a log and the tune which you requested.

I'm betting the real reason you don't know what's going on with my tune is because you just set everything stock and you simply just don't understand and want to BS your way through here. LMAO!!!

My fuck I would really like to see how your cars that you tune actually run when you are done.... Bahhaaaaaa!!!!!!!

[edcmat-l1]

I don't believe I've ever referred to anyone on here as "my bud". If anyone has anything they want to say to me publicly they're free to do so here. If anyone wants to challenge anything I have to say technically, I welcome that. I have a wealth of experience and knowledge and for you to laugh at that says a lot about you.

I know it's hard to handle when someone tell you that the problem you're having with your car is self inflicted.

I've been doing this a REALLY long time. If I sucked at it, I probably wouldn't be still doing it.

I work primarily with and for other professional shops. If anything, they would be way more picky than an individual. They'd know if I was BSing them. They'd know if a mild cam C6 did some funky shit like yours is doing.

You'd have better luck letting one of the DIY guys on here help you out. A simple "MAF only" tune wouldn't be doing what your car is doing.

But go ahead and tell me again I don't know what I'm doing or what I'm talking about.

[Allen Vos]

I don't believe I've ever referred to anyone on here as "my bud".

I know it's hard to handle when someone tell you that the problem you're having with your car is self inflicted.

I've been doing this a REALLY long time. If I sucked at it, I probably wouldn't be still doing it.

I work primarily with and for other professional shops. If anything, they would be way more picky than an individual.

You'd have better luck letting one of the DIY guys on here help you out. A simple "MAF only" tune wouldn't be doing what your car is doing.

But go ahead and tell me again I don't know what I'm doing or what I'm talking about.

You see that's my point. A guy like you comes on here and wants to do a MAF only or MAP tune only.

I'm not interested in that. I will be keeping the car MAF/SD.

So what I really think is you lack the ability to diagnose a MAF/SD tune as its not something you do.

But what really puzzle's me is since you like to keep things stock, why you would only run a MAF tune?

You contradict yourself so much and come across like a hypocrite.

Do us and everyone else a favor. If you don't know or don't have the answer. Stay the Fuck out of my post and stop wasting my time if you don't actually know.

[edcmat-l1]

You see that's my point. A guy like you comes on here and wants to do a MAF only or MAP tune only.

I'm not interested in that. I will be keeping the car MAF/SD.

So what I really think is you lack the ability to diagnose a MAF/SD tune as its not something you do.

But what really puzzle's me is since you like to keep things stock, why you would only run a MAF tune?

You contradict yourself so much and come across like a hypocrite.

Do us and everyone else a favor. If you don't know or don't have the answer. Stay the Fuck out of my post and stop wasting my time if you don't actually know.

Wah Wah Wah. Here I am.

I like how you twist my words. I'm not a hypocrite. I'm not contradicting myself.

Look, you haven't even tuned 1 car yet. I've tuned, more than one. For you to argue with me is ridiculous. You've caused your own pain.

I have the answer. You don't know what you're doing and you need to put it back to stock and start over. You've changed some shit the PCM is unhappy about. Simple as that.

It's a basic mild cam C6 6.2. Nothing special. Start over.

[gtstorey]

He's not recommending a MAF only tune. He's saying even a very basic, crappy MAF only tune would work better than what you have done.

[edcmat-l1]

He's not recommending a MAF only tune. He's saying even a very basic, crappy MAF only tune would work better than what you have done.

Thank you.

If anyone wants to challenge anything I have to say this is a public forum, obviously. For OP to say "oh you should see what they say about you in PM" is super childish. You might think I'm an asshole but I know WTF I'm talking about and doing and I have a long history of such.

That being said, it is common practice, and any professional tuner worth their salt will tell you, when a car comes in, modified, previously tuned, if it has some sort of funky issue, quickest and easiest and most economical thing to do is flash it back to stock, preferably with a factory tool, and then start over.

It's not like that's a cop out or it means I or some other guy doesn't know what they're doing. Joe DIY had his nose pickers in there and doinked up some tables that shouldn't be. I'm not wasting my time trying to find them I'm eliminating them from the equation.

You can continue down the rabbit hole and hope you click a button that fixes it, but I'm telling you it's not a switch or table you need to adjust. It's a combination of changes you've made that need to be undone.

[Allen Vos]

Thank you.

If anyone wants to challenge anything I have to say this is a public forum, obviously. For OP to say "oh you should see what they say about you in PM" is super childish. You might think I'm an asshole but I know WTF I'm talking about and doing and I have a long history of such.

That being said, it is common practice, and any professional tuner worth their salt will tell you, when a car comes in, modified, previously tuned, if it has some sort of funky issue, quickest and easiest and most economical thing to do is flash it back to stock, preferably with a factory tool, and then start over.

It's not like that's a cop out or it means I or some other guy doesn't know what they're doing. Joe DIY had his nose pickers in there and doinked up some tables that shouldn't be. I'm not wasting my time trying to find them I'm eliminating them from the equation.

You can continue down the rabbit hole and hope you click a button that fixes it, but I'm telling you it's not a switch or table you need to adjust. It's a combination of changes you've made that need to be undone.

You think I tune by guessing? lol I hardly think so. Why do you think l come on here asking questions? Its so I can understand things and you should be ashamed of yourself for standing in the way of that. I am not the first one that you've dealt with that feels this way.

I have repeadtly told you I have put every table that was unnecessarily changed back to stock but you wouldn't know that because your to busy talking shit and arguing and to stubborn to even take a look. Yet your favorite words are put it back to stock lol

All you do is talk shit on here and are far from professional and I think it piss's you off when some one calls you out on your shit and proves you dead wrong.

That's when you turn into a bigger asshole.

So I will say it again. If your as smart as what you profess to everyone, and you feel I need to undo certain things on my tune then pipe up and say something to indicate what that might be.

To sit there and say stuff like that and then argue about it really shows how much of a pompus jack ass you really are.

My money is still on the fact that you have no clue why I have the issue I do. Other wise you would elaborate more on it.

Prove me wrong, because I'm betting you cant.

Yet here you will go with more shit talk. lol

This is a public forum to help people that get stuck here and there and you come on here and act like you are god and know everything.

I think you've just been exposed and you don't like it.

You still haven't answered any of my questions and I'm wondering why you even posted here in the first place if this is the attitude you have.

And why not post a private message on here regarding what others think of you? It would only back me up and not you . lol

So again, prove me wrong or just fuck right off.

[edcmat-l1]

You haven't replied with shit about my tune bud. Absolutely nothing. All's you talk about is yourself lol

Got to admit now yeah I'm gloating. I don't know WTF I'm talking about or doing but hey I got honorable mention for tuning the sickest 55 Chevy on the planet. This is just the most recent one.

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[edcmat-l1]

You think I tune by guessing? lol I hardly think so. Why do you think l come on here asking questions? Its so I can understand things and you should be ashamed of yourself for standing in the way of that. I am not the first one that you've dealt with that feels this way.

I have repeadtly told you I have put every table that was unnecessarily changed back to stock but you wouldn't know that because your to busy talking shit and arguing and to stubborn to even take a look. Yet your favorite words are put it back to stock lol

All you do is talk shit on here and are far from professional and I think it piss's you off when some one calls you out on your shit and proves you dead wrong.

That's when you turn into a bigger asshole.

So I will say it again. If your as smart as what you profess to everyone, and you feel I need to undo certain things on my tune then pipe up and say something to indicate what that might be.

To sit there and say stuff like that and then argue about it really shows how much of a pompus jack ass you really are.

My money is still on the fact that you have no clue why I have the issue I do. Other wise you would elaborate more on it.

Prove me wrong, because I'm betting you cant.

Yet here you will go with more shit talk. lol

This is a public forum to help people that get stuck here and there and you come on here and act like you are god and know everything.

I think you've just been exposed and you don't like it.

You still haven't answered any of my questions and I'm wondering why you even posted here in the first place if this is the attitude you have.

And why not post a private message on here regarding what others think of you? It would only back me up and not you . lol

So again, prove me wrong or just fuck right off.

I think you don't know what you're doing and I'm correct in that.

[Allen Vos]

He's not recommending a MAF only tune. He's saying even a very basic, crappy MAF only tune would work better than what you have done.

I would caution you on getting involved with this.

Ed is simply talking shit and has no basis as to why my tune is doing what it is doing.

We can all see by his response's, he doesn't have a fucking clue what he is saying or he would have pin pointed my issue.

Apparently good old fashioned diagnosis is something he is not capable of.



I'm not interested in arguing with anyone either, including you. I've seen your smart ass comments too and ignored them up until now.

If you have something to input about my tune other than calling my tune shit.

Car runs great other than this little hiccup. Why the fuck would I start over?

I'm here to figure out what my issue is and get a little guidance.

So if you too think that there is something wrong with my tune then be a man and say something.

Dont be like this loser Ed lol

[Allen Vos]

I think you don't know what you're doing and I'm correct in that.

Prove me wrong Asshole. I've been saying this the whole time. Your just to thick skulled to get it.

Show me what's wrong with my tune.

Its all there man, tune and the log.

Youve got nothing other than a bunch of shit talk to butter yourself up.

Proof is in the pudding.

If you cant prove me wrong than I'm afraid its you who doesn't know what they are doing. lol

[gtstorey]

I would caution you on getting involved with this.

Caution me? That would indicate consequences. Not sure what those would be. I'll weigh in as I see fit. I didn't call your tune shit, I'm not qualified to say whether its's good or not. But I'm smart enough to believe Ed.