starts and runs like doo doo cold 68 degress 13 ram 5.7 long tube headers mds delete

[tmanplanet]

and how do i use wide band sensors when the vehicle is fitted with standard narrow band, its not even a manner of just wiring it in because thats the super easy part but i know for a fact the ecm is looking for certain mV from a sensor that has a 5v reference range and most wide bands do not use that range.

[edcmat-l1]

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First off, you don't need a wideband to do 90% of the tuning to your vehicle and specifically to cure what you're bitchin about.

Second, if you didn't change the injectors, why are you modifying the injector data?

There are dozens of newbies that come here weekly for guidance. They don't know any more than you do. In all the years I've been here can't remember a single person that comes off like you. Why don't you ease up and maybe someone will give you a hand. Would hate to deal with you on a daily basis.

[MI_Tuning]

you should sell your MPVI and your car if you cant afford to pay somebody to tune it ! you don't want to learn and nobody going to spoonfeed you or help you out with that type of attitude . Leave your vehicle stock if you cant afford to modify it.

[veeefour]

yeah chilly in florida again and it runs like doo doo and starts hard. Im done with this hp tuner without help because it is sold under false advertising that doesn't ensure the consumer knows all that stuff it says it does doesn't work unless you've already spent years in auto tech pcm language or spent tons of money on special courses and or at least advertised it has these features in qualified technicians hands or something. Any ways. Im going share the file and last log and as always wait for the internet hate sharks to appear. Hope i actually get some help or im try to lobby to have these functions of use decreased just like they already are. Thanks

lmao

[veeefour]

after realizing the intense depth and knowledge needed to use the "simple device." unfair to have a regular poor guy have to spend hundreds more or thousands on hp tuner classes specific to one thing. i dont see the value, very time consuming and other "tuners" are capitalizing on this open market, its under regulated. online reviews of the those with not so great results continually emerging leave me guarded.

i know bunches about engines, honestly this is all a bunch of new stuff i didn't care to really deal with. but was sold on a virtual ve tuning or something that sounded like auto tune in the advertising. easier than fast efi or a stand alone efi competitor for half the cost, was lies or incorrectly marketed. i can tell you all about engines and how they work prob put up any pic and i can guess the part maybe at best a few tries. hp tuners while yes having extremely detailed control and options is for a computer geek compared to me only using email and text for 35 years. and that nerd stole my time, money and i wanna beat it out of them.....

i put it back completly stock as suggested, did injector stuff and couple other things i know basic. going to put spark plugs in soon, gonna look around and will loook for air leaks.

update: it starts fine now. i think the ve table thing was to low, but im using the correct data logging to get to that ve table.if i watch another video of setting it up i will be able to repeat it word for word and make my own video.

air filter loss table seems to be doing the best to help the engine swing past the sluggishness it normally has without removing ve.

Well I suggest you improve your English first, starting with punctuation...

[tmanplanet]

thats what i had a secretary for, also mostly all emailing i did was set up threw work lol idk how your even be doing all this email stuff thru here. i can post a tune thanks to some other forums instruction. got a basic understanding of computers. bet u wouldnt say shit in person like that to me. other dude you sound weak, cant deal with real life? anyways it runs like doo doo, wouldnt need hp tuners if it ran great. i have the money, spent more on ve tuneing just like the hp video says. it got cold and it runs like crap again after doing it the third time. i want to do it myself and have spent money on this ve tune crap and odviously am not happy. so the injector balancing seems to do the best for my gas mileage and overall since i first got this thing. and yeah without literally throwing money out a hellcat sunroof thats pretty much what this is and i figured someone would want to help and there is most likely many verisions of my fustration out there. all the chevy stuff so far is easy peassy....

[dodgeboy]

yeah chilly in florida again and it runs like doo doo and starts hard. im done with this hp tuner without help because it is sold under false advertising that doesn't ensure the consumer knows all that stuff it says it does doesn't work unless you've already spent years in auto tech pcm language or spent tons of money on special courses and or at least advertised it has these features in qualified technicians hands or something. any ways. im going share the file and last log and as always wait for the internet hate sharks to appear. hope i actually get some help or im try to lobby to have these functions of use decreased just like they already are. thanks

I bought my HP Tuners and credits, not to be a tuner but so a tuner can send me the parameters they want logged, log them and I can PAY them to fix my tune. I come on here to read posts and try to understand why they do what they do not learn to do it myself. I still use the MVP2+ the last module they made. I still get connection time outs and freezes when logging but, if I go back to my tuner, I do not need to buy credits, I have them and I'll give them my module to use. I prefer to pay for their knowledge and time. As stated, if it was easy, everyone would do it and and it would not cost 1k to get it done right.

Take your car to an exhaust shop and have them weld a bung in for a wideband or, turn off your secondary narrow bands and replace 1 both with wide bands. If you replace both and use 2 gauges you can see if 1 bank is rich or lean compared to the other. They are only needed to make sure you are 11.25 at WOT, my tuner has mine around 10.5 to keep it safe with a blower. I know what they did, I understand why (I asked for a safe tune instead of max power) I just don't understand how, nor I want to, they adjusted the pulse width on the injectors. IMO it was money well spent.

[dodgeboy]

thats what i had a secretary for, also mostly all emailing i did was set up threw work lol idk how your even be doing all this email stuff thru here. i can post a tune thanks to some other forums instruction. got a basic understanding of computers. bet u wouldnt say shit in person like that to me. other dude you sound weak, cant deal with real life? anyways it runs like doo doo, wouldnt need hp tuners if it ran great. i have the money, spent more on ve tuneing just like the hp video says. it got cold and it runs like crap again after doing it the third time. i want to do it myself and have spent money on this ve tune crap and odviously am not happy. so the injector balancing seems to do the best for my gas mileage and overall since i first got this thing. and yeah without literally throwing money out a hellcat sunroof thats pretty much what this is and i figured someone would want to help and there is most likely many verisions of my fustration out there. all the chevy stuff so far is easy peassy....

So it ran great when it was warm out, now it is cold and runs like crap. Did you try pulling the fuse to the PCM to try resetting the Long Term Fuel Trims? Just asking, like any other computer a simple reboot fixes some issues.

[sevinn]

i dont have that kind of money and bought this because it didnt say anything about spending more money for a professional tuner. two years of reading watching and doing even more research with zero results. this device should only be sold to licensed techs. further more who has the license and credentials for this type of device doesnt exist so the consumer is faced with others now capitalizing on the unknowing consumer like me and just scams money from people and potentially left with an non functioning vehicle. very dark and slippery slope for the consumer and the environment.

furthermore in general most everyone i talk to in person about hp tuner devices say that its a non functioning device and a scam unless you are a dyno tune shop. so now you see how easy it is to scam consumers for money because now you need a dyno to fully use the device. thats not anywhere in the marketing. multiple people have told me that just buying the device i got scammed out of my money.

To elaborate on what a scam it is even more i could get on this forum and take a post and make money from others while not actually doing any tuning just because i can put that post up and pose as a tuner. so i should just pose as a tuner to make the money, dont really need any insurance, certs, no license, no tax id or business affiliation. good luck trying to sue a email acct for a refund or collateral damages.

You are a ridiculous person with these expectations. Wow.

[james1595]

As others have stated, might want want to take a chill pill. But sounds like a fueling issue. You put headers on and now you changed the airflow. You need a wideband and to set up your scanner to log your fuel trims. Most likely they are way out, amd with cold air, means more dense air. So you are probably running extremely lean, and your o2 sensors are compinsating when the truck warms up.

[tmanplanet]

All very good info, had some one also tell me these tunes are not expensive. But definitely more complicated than what I expected. I evened the etc ve factor thing so it doesn?t run rich after trying to start. Then I added 5kpa to air filter loss which offsets the even etc factor by helps pull the needed air for start up. Today started right up right and proper. Little changes to shifts made big difference to stockish build that has a huge improvement. Friend pointed out to me that I actually should feel lucky I got to grab such a powerful device and to have patience with learning it and be prepared to collaborate with it which might include paying for a tuner.