A lot of you have been asking if/when we would have support for the new Mustang.
This is the official thread on the topic. It is being worked on, and I hope to enable reading very early into the new year.
Stay tuned for updates.
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A lot of you have been asking if/when we would have support for the new Mustang.
This is the official thread on the topic. It is being worked on, and I hope to enable reading very early into the new year.
Stay tuned for updates.
Love it.
Thank you!
Can't wait!
Just picked up a '14 auto after selling my '11 manual.
Awesome! Thanks, Eric
Greatest car-related news I've heard in a while
Will this support all models, incl. the GT500?
Very interested in learning them!!
I do love that they have built in widebands as well!
I think Ford has 1 Lambda = 14.1 AFR for 100% gasoline. I'm not sure how the PIDs and etc will work out for the scanner, but will it reflect this out of the box or will we need to do some tinkering? An option to read AFR or Lamda would be awesome as well.
Also, the coyote is prone to cylinder 8 issues, will there be a way to run one cylinder richer than others?
It's in lambda, so you won't need to do anything. Just set the stoich value correctly in the editor, and tune it based on the fuel trims. Whatever you command in the WOT fueling table you will get even if the tune is off a bit because the PCM will make fueling corrections at WOT to hit the target.
There are fuel and spark adjustments per cylinder as well.
Agree! Wow, that is outstanding. I absolutely hate SCT but it's pretty much the only choice for my 13 Mustang GT
Ya, the copperhead ECU is very complicated and advanced with its 32 timing maps and variable cam timing amongst a host of other things.
Do you guys have any teaser info you can post? How much access will the end user to all the different tables etc?
Coming from the E38 was a big shock when tuning 2 timing maps versus the copperhead's 32. lol
I plan to post how to info when I am closer to release. It will be very complete.
Outstanding. Does the reading of the ecu go hand in hand with the ability to tune it? Or is that just phase 1 - cracking the code?
Great News Eric!
Being able to read it is our first hurdle, and we have already done that. The next step is when the reading is enabled for everyone so you all can send me reads in, so I have a copy of each OS ID, and can do the definitions for each. I have been working on definitions for a couple of weeks now.
I have strategy code BLV3 (2013 Mustang GT, manual trans) if you need it. What hardware do you need to do the read? I sold my HPT hardware when I sold the corvette so it looks like I'll be purchasing a new suite once this is up and running. Currently, 'amateur' tuners do not have full access to the computers and are only given "calibrator" level access which keeps some of the code hidden. Only a handful of tuners are given full access but then you're forced to use their tune. I prefer to have my own tune in my car and not rely on someone else so I'm forced to settle for the basics. Do you know if you'll be able to grant unrestricted access to the community or will we still be throttled? What about stuff like the clutch protection strategy that is hardcoded into the computer and is not removeable via tuning--do you know if you'll be able to turn that off with HPT?
You will need an HPT interface to do the read, once we enable it. The software will have full access to everything that is required to tune the cars properly. There are thousands of parameters within the PCM, some of which would never need to be changed. So I intend to only add in what is needed. If someone needs access to something not in the software, I will add it. Clutch Protection will be there.
Great News! Looking forward to it. I use SCT a lot, but prefer HP Tuners.
True you raise a good point, I forgot you could adjust spark per cylinder. It's tough to put a number on how much timing to pull maybe 2-3 degrees then. Also, if you skew cyl #8 3% then the others would only be off 1% a piece which is less the .2 a/f ratio...maybe a combination of the two would work. I'll have to get one on the dyno and see how it translates into real world numbers. Makes me want 8 O2's and 8 egt's lol
This raises a question. While scanning my buddy's 13 5.0, I noticed stft correction at wot. Is this correction based on commanded a/f ratio vs actual calculated by the factory wideband? I wasn't scanning commanded lamda at the time, not sure if I could either, it was a while back. Im sure you already know, the only time you would see this from an LS is if the pcm hasn't entered PE.
That's what I was thinking. Thanks for confirming. Talk about easy to dial in the fuel curve.
Btw, when the time comes, if you need a few files I know 4 people with 5.0's.
Thanks, that will be helpful.
Once I get a little closer to releasing, I will start posting HOWTO information on tuning these vehicles as it is a bit different than before. That way you guys aren't in the dark when the software is released.
We should be able to read other cars with tunes from the current 5.0 tuners to figure out what they're doing to prevent cylinder 8 issues, right?
Depends on; if they have it locked or not
Yes. My personal opinion is the Cyl 8 issues were caused by bad / over aggressive tuning.
To my knowledge there is no Ford tuning software that does PCM locking like there is in the GM world. It could be done, but no one is currently doing it that I am aware of.
I never use others tuning, mostly because 9 out of 10 tunes are hack and the other are application specific. I never once have seen a proper MAF cal from a mail order. If the tune was good in the first place the car would not be in front of me for a tune.
Same here.
I'm so excited for this! Thank you for all your hard work!
I will be ready to upload my stock read whenver I am able to.
Thanks again!
I might have to buy a Mustang...
Good to know. I use HP on my 1000+rwhp vette and have a SCT tuner for my 2012 mustang but would love to tune it myself. I wonder if HPtuners will read the tune in it now which was a SCT tune and let me modify that because the tuner put tons of time into it to get it shifting perfect and I would hate to start with a stock tune.
There is a timer that reverts back to Stoich after so many seconds at WOT from the factory. The fix in the SCT software was to raise that timer. Aggressive timing curves and de-sensitizing knock sensors also played a role in the #8 issue too. These cars are very nice to tune once you know how they work. Im hoping HP Tuners will have access to more tables than SCT did. Part of the problem is you can't see a lot of the tables we may need. A lot of Roush tunes have items changed that we could not see.